02-27-2017, 04:13 PM
(02-27-2017, 11:23 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: http://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/best-steakhouses-in-the-us#cattlemens
I dont see Pine Club listed on this list, but see Ruby's.
In all honesty, when you get to a certain point, its kind of hard to differentiate one steak from another. Im sure Rubys is just as good as good as Pine Club and vice versa. You are splitting hairs when you get to a certain point of quality and service. To say "Rubys isnt even close" though, is just silly.
I agree you are right, if they are getting quality aged meat at some point it is splitting hairs. Playboy used to do a list and the Pine Club was on their national list as I recall, and I have seen it on others as well. I have no ax to grind against Jeff, and I am glad some critics out there give him props. From what I understand, he runs a heck of a business.
I have had people who do a lot more fine dining than I do tell me Carlo and Johnny's is one of the best restaurants in Cincy, and it is interesting that some Ruby fans have not seemed to have heard of it or don't know it is his.
With that said, several those same people have told me there are multiple places in Cincy with better food than any of Ruby's places and at a better price point too. Many fine diners don't care about price, but some (particularly businesses) are sensitive about that. Even though they are writing off expenses, if they budget $10,000 for entertaining clients and they can divide it over x number of $350 tabs or y number of $500 tabs for the same number of clients per meal many will opt for the smaller tabs and more client outings. Of course others want to go to Ruby's to impress clients because it is the "best" (i.e. most expensive).
The other thing for me about Ruby's is that I really love steak, and Ruby seems to owe a lot of his reputation to the rub they put on their steaks. Now, I love the Montgomery Inn and could not imagine eating their ribs without that delicious sauce. But, when I order a steak I want it unadulterated. No dry rub or steak sauce (no catsup or mayo either - yeah, gross, but I have seen people do both) for me. Just a personal thing but when people say to me some restaurant puts a great marinade or rub on a steak that is not a good endorsement for me.
Bon apetit'!
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