02-28-2017, 04:46 PM
(02-28-2017, 04:33 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Hobson reported the Bengals offered Joseph the same deal he accepted in Houston, but according to Joseph Houston offered him more guaranteed money. When one team offers more guaranteed money than another team; both offers aren't the same. They're different.
So why should I believe the Bengals when I've already heard the same false BS before? This is what Hobson reported:
Hobson didn't report what the Bengals offered in the form of guaranteed money. Guaranteed money is, in general, the most important factor with any NFL contract. Because a NFL player can be released or sustain a career ending injury and they will never see the remaining money contained in their contract.
If you believe they offered him the same money, I would like to see an apples to apples comparison which includes the amount of guaranteed money the Bengals offered rather than an estimate of the average yearly salary which doesn't include anything about the guaranteed money. When I'm able to compare and the offer is in fact the same, then I will believe. But, from what Hobson reported there is no evidence the offer is the same because he (deliberately) left out important information to determine Jones did, in fact, turn down the same offer or an offer that included less guaranteed money.
If you have a $40 million, $17 million guaranteed, $9 million average in first three years and a $40 million, $20 million guaranteed, $9million average in the first three years, I'm taking the contract that guarantees me an extra $3 million. Total money is the same, but a $3 million difference in guaranteed money is a significant difference.
...then back to my other point that really wasn't even the point of the thread. If they didn't offer him the same money they made the right call not overpaying him and found an equal option for far less money. Luck or not, looking back we came out on the right side of the whole exchange.
The thread is about Hobson's "creative accounting". I have show that it's not that creative compared to what the Bengals have done. Even if you want to point to the 5-8 million left at the end of the years they rolled over, they have still spent the league average or so and have spent far more than most will admit. As I pointed out 5 teams in the playoffs last year spent more than us, the rest spent less.
We could have a whole other thread, which we have many times, regarding the decisions themselves. I don't think all decisions made have been great, but I do think in the last 5 years they have committed financially to being competitive.
