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(03-01-2017, 01:12 AM)jowczarski Wrote: @BengalChris - That line about carrying over no money from 2011 to '12 didn't make sense to me because it was the first year of the new CBA that allowed for that. John Clayton wrote in '12 that the Bengals carried over $15M from 2011 to 2012.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/7570116/nfl-plenty-cap-room-improve
Spotrac and Over The Cap are great resources but always remember they are incomplete, pull their information from other people/sites that report figures, and in some ways include educated guesses. For instance, those sites didn't know McCarron was actually a restricted free agent in 2018.

Edit: As for the argument about moving on from older players, that is a fair one. They try to choose to honor a contract to the end and get something out of those players rather than incur those costs + cost of a new player. Worth questioning that methodology in some instances.

If finances come first, where does that leave winning a SB?  No better than second, right?  Yes, we wanna win a SB, but this way and this way only.  How many recent SB champs have operated this way? 

If we could win a SB but it came with three years of sucking afterwards, would we take the deal?  In a NY minute.  Go for broke at least a little more, before it's too late for Andy and AJ and Geno and the rest.  They need to stop acting like they have all the time in the world.

If the Bengals go back to the 90's, it won't be because they took a chance or two.  It'll be because they refused to.

It's very possible '15 was THE chance and it got bad lucked away and won't come back again.  And the hangover from the playoff loss was just too big.  Add all the other factors, last year was doomed.

So, you go from meltdown to breakdown and then leave town and you're looking at being worse than the 6 win team going into the draft.  Are you good enough to bounce that far back?  Is it time to step outside the comfort zone or do they think they're too far away to do that?  Do they ever give you their honest assessment of the team?
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