03-07-2017, 10:41 AM
(03-07-2017, 10:32 AM)ochocincos Wrote: You want sacks yet you say you want McDowell over Thomas? McDowell only had 1.5 sacks in 2016, Thomas had 8. Yes, Kpassagnon had 11 sacks but in the FCS. Hard to say he's really that much better than Thomas given he's only 3 more but playing against much worse competition. DeMarcus Walker I get. They are similar players. Walker had 15 sacks and it was against the same quality of competition. You know I've always liked Walker. But the reason people are raving about Thomas is because he's more than just a pass rusher. He was the best in the country in run defense too. The Bengals need help in the run defense department too, and there's still a lot of value in the NFL to stop the run. If you're going to pull the sack numbers thing, might as well mention Hunter Dimick (14.5), Carl Lawson (9.0), and Charles Harris (9.0).
Also, when you mention pro day, it's well known that most players run the 40 faster at their pro day than the combine. This is because typically the university tracks are faster than the turf in Indy.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2016/story/_/id/15082144/pro-days-compare-grind-nfl-combine-nfl-draft
It'd be one thing to see Mike Williams run the 40 at his pro day and get 4.55. But it's more worthwhile to see the other top draft picks at WR run on that same track. Given we can't see anyone else besides other Clemson players run the 40 at the Clemson pro day, we'll just have to compare the results that Deshaun Watson and Wayne Gallman post at the pro day with their times at the combine (4.66 and 4.60 respectively). Sure, it's possible that a player could actually improve their 40 time between the combine and his pro day, but it's not likely that it's because of improved training. It's likely due to other factors that are more favorable for the player. I trust the combine 40 numbers more than pro day 40 numbers.
im expecting williams to run a 4.48-4.52. My problem with thomas was most of his production was from the inside. As an end he had barely any production. I get his athleticsm but my point was i named who i think will be second rounders. Do we think thomas at 9 will be so much more better than those plauers i named at 41? Bc if the answer is no then go somewhere else. For example will malik hooker and jamaal adams be so much more better than a safety in the second round? Tight now the answer is yes. That was my point.
