Telling quote from Carson Palmer

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(07-29-2015, 11:12 AM)Nately120 Wrote: That is your chosen conclusion, and I disagree with it.  During the 2011 off-season both Carson Palmer and Marvin Lewis raised major concerns about the franchise with Mike Brown.  Mike Brown refused to budge on either and Marvin chose to fall back in line and Carson chose not to.

They both threatened to "quit" as you put it but for some reason only the guy who was actually able to get hired at the same position with another team is demonized while the guy who probably figured it was Bengals-or-nothing stopped making demands and walked back to his cage with his tail between his legs to continue dreaming of the practice facility Mikey won't give him.

The only reason Carson missed game time in 2011 is because Mike Brown would rather win an argument than entertain trade offers.  Carson could have been traded that spring and all this manufactured controversy would have stayed quiet. But just like those neighbors you have that argue as loudly as they want because they don't care what people think of them, the Bengals managed to turn it into yet another player vs. Mike Brown off-season debacle.

That's my take.  I realize it requires more thought than "He quit, he's a quitter" so feel free to dismiss it.

Your stupid line of "I realize it requires more thought" is insulting.  You can excuse away his actions by saying that others also threatened (but did not act), or that he was dealing with such a horrible environment that he would rather sit (quit) than play for this team is nothing but that, excuses.  Not one other player on the team took his stance, and they all play for the same coach and owner.  Saying that calling him a quitter takes less thought than your excuse making is not accurate.  It may be simple, but it is factual...HE QUIT WHILE UNDER CONTRACT. 

Amazingly, a great deal of the media (ESPN) chose to portray Palmer as the victim.  "It's the Bengals", etc.  I will never accept his actions as anything but cowardly.   If you want to see what a real man, a leader, does in such situations look no further than Kurt Warner.  The Rams and Cardinals were just as big a joke, if not bigger, than the Bengals for some time.  He can in, worked with his team, and took them each to a Super Bowl....and won one of them.

I'm sure there were things Warner didn't like about those franchises.  In fact, I remember seeing a pretty demonstrative spat with Todd Haley in one game, but he never quit.  He won.