Can a QB help an Oline?

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(03-13-2017, 02:24 PM)Wyche Wrote: I'm not so sure coach.....I counted 10 seconds he had to hit Hogan in the back of the endzone during the AFCCG against the Steelers.  The Pats have a GREAT scheme, and one of the best line coaches in NFL history....so good, that after struggling in 2015 a bit, they brought him back out of retirement.

(03-13-2017, 02:30 PM)Wyche Wrote: The problem the last few years has been a deformed pocket from his center allowing tremendous pressure up the gut.  When the pocket is collapsed so quickly at the point that is supposed to be anchored from, it leads to trouble.  He could stand to get better at working the pocket, but he has improved at that quite a bit from 2011.  Bodine has just struggled.

(03-13-2017, 07:57 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: Dead on.  People make excuses when he has a poor outing or a poor season by saying "Brady doesn't like pressure in his face".  Great.  What QB does?  The point is, he almost never has to deal with it.  

I got absolutely murdered for even "mentioning Brady and Dalton in the same sentence", but I have said it many times:  when Dalton is kept clean, he picks teams apart.  

Can't disagree with anything here. I do think that Brady seems to be able to do more with less than many QB's. His oline was a bunch of youngins this year and they still won the SB. Still, scheme and coaching are huge!

Bottom line the Death Star runs like a well oiled machine while the Bengals run like my first car, a 76 Buick.


I think some QBs can do more with less. I don't necessarily think that Andy fits that mold. That said, with Bodine constantly in his lap and LDE always in his face it's tough to do a lot.
Hence, another reason that I want a beast RB...aka Dalvin,LF, or possibly even the woman beater at the right spot. An exceptional RB can make lemonade out of lemons.

Hill cost the team a playoff win and to my eyes is not the answer. Even when the line creates a hole for him to run through he usually hits the wrong lane, and once in the secondary he's a fumbling liability. Once again though, scheming is huge and this CS doesn't seem to be very good at it.