Bengals PFF Roster Grades

[Okeana]

(03-16-2017, 01:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are entiled to your opinion.  But please explain why your opinion is superior to mine.  What experience do you have in playing, coaching, or scouting football players that gives your opinion any weight or credibility?

I post "facts" to back up my opinion.  Like last year when I educated you all on how well Kirkpatrick really played in '15.

I do the same with MJ.  Based on production he was a top 30 DE last year.  Based on the opinion of professional NFL coaches with years of experience he does not "suck giant donkey balls".  And you have nothing to refute that. 

QB Hurries - MJ Ranks - 47th among all lineman  - 22nd among Defensive Ends    https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/defensive-hurries/2016/

Sack totals Among all Defensive Line players - MJ Ranks 112  / Among DE's 44    https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/player-sacks-and-sack-yards/2016/

Tackles/Asst Tackles -  Among all lineman - MJ Ranks 262  - Among DE's 21 https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/total-tackles-and-assisted-tackles/2016/customize/

He had zero Fumbles and zero recoveries last year


These stats don't take into consideration level of talent on the defensive line and level of talent in the backfield that increase play duration giving him more overall time than his contemporaries .  Stats don't paint a full picture of a player because of all the other factors that come into play, but in the end of the day do you consider 3.5 sacks and zero fumbles to be an acceptable season for a RDE ?


EDIT:

Just as a quick PFF grade comparison.  Michael Johnson's most important stat as a RDE is sacks.  Compared to every DE Johnson ranked 44 out of 97 which puts him at around 55% among Defensive ends.  So at most you can say his grade should be closer to 55, but even if he has a stat that doesn't mean he won on that play.  For example on his assisted sack last year he could have come in after the sack was established by Atkins or another player.  Without looking at the individual player a stat doesn't give a full picture.