Reds get #2 overall pick in 2017 draft

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(06-13-2017, 02:38 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I liked Gore and think that he was the best well-rounded pitcher in the draft.  Hunter Greene has all the buzz and maybe a generational type of player.  Reds fans know that fast Falls in triple digits doesn't mean a thing in Major League Baseball.  Chapman used to be hit for homeruns.  

I think if he can work on his changeup and slider and have legitimate above average curve ball for pitchers that his fast ball could be devastating.  Chapman basically had only two pitches.

Greene was the player they wanted and he has a very positive attitude for a 17 year old kid very mature he is tall and has a lot of room for development.  So he'll probably start in the Arizona League and the Reds won't see him for a few years down the road.

Yea, Chapman didn't become an elite player until he developed that sweeping slider better. 

It bothers me that there are conflicting reports about Greene's Curveball. Some say it is a plus pitch, others say it needs to be scrapped entirely. I'm not sure how they come to those decisios, but it's definitely frustrating.

I mean, look at Stephenson. That guy had a 70 rated fastball too.

Fat lot of good that's done him. He still gets smacked around like few pitchers around haha. 

In order to be a successful starting pitcher in the major leagues, you need a minimum of 2 plus pitches and a third average pitch.  Right now, based on some reports, Greene has one plus pitch and two below average pitches.

Developing pitching is seemingly so random, it can be frustrating to see a player like McKay or Wright not get taken when they've already developed their secondary and tertiary pitches to the point that projection is much more possible (and reasonable).

I saw a tweet that said, in terms of potential and risk factor, Nick Senzel is a 60/Medium and Greene is a 70/Extreme.

Basically, Senzel has the potential to be an all star player with a medium amount of risk.
Greene has the potential to be a perennial all star player with an extreme amount of risk.

I tend to prefer the Senzel level prospects. Hopefully, Greene reaches his potential and we're seeing him at the top of our rotation for the next 10 to 15 years (once he makes it to the majors).

Or, you know, until we trade him off like we did with Cueto...