06-20-2017, 10:23 PM
(06-20-2017, 05:21 PM)3wt Wrote: There's really nothing clear about what happens behind the scenes.
Generally it's the coordinators that make the adjustments. I've seen Guenther make changes in the game plan effectively. My gut is that that is not one of Z's strengths. His game plans have been really nice. But once a team adjusts to us we do not seem to compensate. It think the defense makes good in game adjustments.
The offense may be compromised by Marvin - I don't really know. But I know that Marvin has allegedly been quoted as telling (Brat I think) that he wants us do send in run plays exclusively. When I watch the Patriots and the Steelers, I do not see that kind of rigid play calling. I see them continuing to game plan and be aggressive in their play calling.
They do not typically sit on a lead.
Last year we had a really good game plan going in. The Pats went into the locker room and came out with a different game plan. And they did not stop hammering us till the end of the game.
What killed us most in that game was that we did not have the personnel to deal with the Patriot's change in game plan. Their tight ends ate us alive.
So I apologize for going all over the place. But I do believe our coordinators try to make adjustments - sometimes very successfully - especially on defense, I don't think Marvin is aggressive enough when we're ahead and we had some serious deficiencies in personnel last year.
Great points. Can't forgot that Marv completely overrode Paul Guenther when he wanted to make some personnel changes last year either. Also, Brat used to call the plays, but Marv told him what types of plays to run as evidenced by 2009 Hard Knocks (there was a short clip where Marv told Brat to call three run plays up the middle).
(06-20-2017, 05:43 PM)Dr. Bombay Wrote: Like I said, I really can't tell when NFL teams make in-game adjustments. I am not that good at analyzing the games. But I look forward to the gameday threads here where you all point out these details to me.
For example 3WT just mentione the Patriots game last year. What eaxctly did the Pats change, and what
should Marvin have done to counter their move?
You'll see what we're talking about at some point next season, I'm sure... But I hope it doesn't come to that, of course. In that patriots game we just got straight up beat by a far superior team. There was nothing about that game where the playcalling or schemes were the issue.
(06-20-2017, 05:49 PM)Dr. Bombay Wrote: So this guy got banned for defending Marvin?
I don't want to get in any trouble here. What do you mean by "the language I use"? Did I say something wrong? I just found it surprisong that so many of you thought that Marvin never made any in-game adjustments.
If this is Fred I'll let you have this until your ban is up. If this profile is still active after, I'll eat some crow (but I'll remain skeptical) .
Fred is a notorious pot-stirrer who constantly went against what the masses generally agreed with here. Just to stir up some drama. He's a legitimate contrarian who I believe is a troll looking to get a rise out of folks. You didn't do that. obviously. But you did interpret a direct quote from Marv as something other than what he obviously meant and went out of your way to defend him... That's Fred to a T.
