07-05-2017, 09:26 AM
(07-04-2017, 05:16 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 4. If I were ranking coaches, I'd probably put Gase and Quinn in an "up and comers" tier. They look great now, but like Chip Kelly, there could be a serious decline after the initial success. Sometimes coaches (and QBs/players) aren't able to sustain that success. I'm not concerned with what you think about posters on this board. I'm more interested in why you value the opinion of experts with regards to Dalton, but the same experts have not swayed your opinion on Marvin through the years.
6. What I'm saying is this: If you replace Dalton on that list with any of the other QB's that played a playoff game for Marvin (Palmer, Kitna, McCarron), any of them would rank dead last, behind Andrew Luck.
Pitt 15: Ben had a 92.0 rating against a much tougher defense...on the road, in the same conditions. That rating was 23.7 points better than McCarron's. Not sure the rain had much to do with it. Any way you try to slice it or excuse it, a 68.3 passer rating is bad. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe an "expert"?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bengals-reportedly-want-at-least-a-first-round-pick-for-backup-aj-mccarron/
Not sure how much Palmer and Kitna's other games prove. Kitna played 1 other playoff game in his first year as starter. You seem to excuse McCarron's performance due to age/experience and if you apply the same standards to Kitna, that game shouldn't count. Palmer has 2 games since he left. One was pretty good, the other was awful. So at least Arian's was able to get something out of him. It's more than Marvin can say after 4 QBs and 7 starts. And that's only touching on the QB's. There's been plenty of team-wide failure.
You mean like Maualuga making Owen Daniels look like Kelen Winslow? Or how bout Gresham dropping all those balls in Houston? Danny Woodhead gashing us? Forgetting BJGE was on the team in 2013? Gio fumbling inside the 10? Hill's fumble? Burfict and Pac Man's meltdown? McCarron's poo poo performance? Palmer and the entire team not named Cedric Benson not showing up in 2009?
That's just the playoffs.....we won't even get into the primetime woes, and other times playoffs were on the line in the regular season and we choked.....or last year when Nugent couldn't hit the Ohio River, and Ogbuehi couldn't block my 4 year old, yet they remained in the lineup until they tanked our season. Why did Andy let that happen? Dumbass QB.
Curse that damned number 14 for making everyone from 2005 on meltdown in the bright lights! Piece of shit!
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