07-10-2017, 12:10 AM
(07-07-2017, 09:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The entire team has not been bad. There have been some standout performances:
Benson's 168 yard performance in '09
Green-Ellis running for over 5 ypc, Leon's pick 6, Green's 80 yard performance in '12
Marvin's 130 yard performance, Gresh with 68 and a TD, Rey's 12 tackle game in '13
V.Rey with 6 tackles and an FF, the RBs combining for over 10 catches and 100 yards in '14
Green with 71 and a TD, Burfict with 5 tackles, 1 INT, 1 sack, and 1 FF in '15
We've had plenty folks show up; yet some will look to dismiss these to divert blame from the elephant in the room. It's just you're fighting from both sides when your QB and team leader is out there absolutely stinking it up. The fact that we've come close to overcoming these performances 2-3 times is amazing. Some would just look to dimiss these,
I know you and many other want to say it is the fault of a HC with a defensive pedigree that Andy has shit the bed 4 straight times; however, it is not a logic I can buy. The QB has choked; who knows why? In Carson's case I remember reading a study by Carl Jung that explained his personality type would cause him to crash on the big stage; perhaps he needs to study Andy and Mikey come off the dime to pay for a couple sports psychologists.
Oh, and even though you did not answer my question I will answer yours directly if the above didn't point to it. Any player that played poorly in any game is the fault of the player.
There are 22 starters on a football team, we've played 7 playoff games, and this is all you can scrape together? Most of these weren't even impressive performances. 6 tackles and a FF? 11 carries for 63 yards and 2 catches for negative 9? Some average looking games for AJ and Gresh? The fact that this is some of the best performances we've seen across 7 playoff games is just more evidence for my argument.
What about these duds?
2005
Kitna: 24-40-197-1-2 (60.1 rating) + fumble
Rudi and Chris Perry: 15-59-1 (3.9 per carry) with 8 catches for 25 yards (3.1 per catch)
Chad: 4-59-0 on 6 targets
Housh: 4-25-1 on 11 targets
Defense allowed 31 points, 144 rush yards and a 148.7 passer rating to Ben. Only 1 sack and 0 turnovers forced (from a D that led the league in that category)
2009
Palmer: 18-36-146-0-1 (58.3 rating) + fumble
Chad: 2-28-0 on 6 targets
Caldwell: 2-25-0 on 8 targets
Shayne: 0-2 on clutch FGs
4th ranked defense allowed 24 points, 171 rush yards and a 139.4 rating to Mark Sanchez. 0 sacks and 0 turnovers forced.
2011
Benson and Bernard Scott: 13-25-1 (1.9 per carry) with 4 catches for 27 yards (Benson had a drive-killing drop)
AJ Green: 5-47-0 on 11 targets
Top 5 defense allowed 31 points, 188 rush yards and a 97.7 rating to TJ Yates. Only 2 sacks and 0 turnovers forced.
2012
No big choke jobs on offense outside of Dalton, although it's clear we abandoned the run too early in a close game (BJGE went 11-63-0)
Defense held Texans to 19 points, but allowed 158 rush yards. Only 1 sack, but did get the pick 6 by Leon.
(This is the only game where you could really argue that if Dalton just played a little better, we could've won)
2013
Gio: 12-45-0 (3.8 per carry) with 7 catches for 73 yards, but was inefficient with targets (11) and had a crucial fumble
AJ Green: 3-34-0 on 9 targets
Top 3 defense allowed 27 points, 196 rush yards and a 118.7 rating to Rivers. Only 1 sack and 0 turnovers forced.
2014
Hill/Bernard: 16-53-1 (only 3.3 per carry) with 8 catches for 46 yards (only 5.8 per catch)
Mo Sanu: 3-31-0 on 7 targets in a game where we needed him desperately
Brandon Tate: Nothing on 5 targets
Top 5 defense allowed 26 points, 110 rush yards and a 104.0 rating to Luck. Only 1 sack and 1 turnover forced.
2015
McCarron: 23-41-212-1-1 (68.3 rating) + 3 fumbles
Hill/Gio: 18-78-1 (4.3 per carry...which was inflated by Hill's 38 yarder) with 5 catches for 29 yards on 8 targets + Hill's crucial fumble
Eifert: 5-58-0 on 9 targets
Jones and Sanu: 7-49-0 on 12 targets
Defense allowed only 18 points, but allowed 167 rush yards and a 92.0 rating to Ben. Defense did get 4 sacks and 2 turnovers. Easily the best game for the D in the playoffs and it still wasn't all that impressive. Especially considering the lack of composure at the end. This game is also yet more proof that the defense isn't adversely affected by a multiple turnover game from the QB/offense. We had 4 turnovers in this game (most ever in the playoffs under Marv) yet the D turned in their best performance.
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Now looking this all over, what makes you think it's all Andy's fault? Especially in the 3 games he didn't even suit up for?
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