Who is the Bengals Offensive MVP in 2017-18?

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(07-13-2017, 06:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Dalton can throw the deep ball and does so with great success. He owes this to his timing and anticipation. WTS, the "deep ball" is not a true indicator of arm strength. I would be amazed it there is any starting QB in the NFL that cannot throw the ball 50 yards in the air, just put more air under it. 

The true test of arm strength is can the QB fire it into that closing window on his back foot; ect...Many experts have suggested Andy has a weak at; however, it doesn't matter on the deep ball. In the past this is why I suggested Andy gets rid of the ball so quickly it travels in the air longer.

Either way a "weak arm" is just a last moniker to give a QB; hell, Peyton Manning was said to have a weak arm. That QB has had that arm strength his whole career. The key is anticipation and timing. IMO, this is why Andy throws the really "WTF was he doing" INT. 

So you're both right. 

Aside from the bolded....I would have to agree with the rest of the post.  As to why I would disagree with the bolded, faulk would sum my opinion up nicely...

(07-13-2017, 09:23 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I do think there's a marked difference in his velocity on those throws from his first couple years till now. I'm not sure how often you've been able to get to training camp in the last couple years, but going in one time, while the QBs were just tossing it back and forth, i was quite a bit surprised with the velocity that the ball was coming out of his hand with. Compared to the other 3 or so QBs tossing the ball, his did look more effortless and seemed to get there quicker on what looked like just a flick of his wrist.

That velocity is so important on the sideline throw, 15 yards down field. 

.....yup.

(07-13-2017, 10:06 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Initially, I reacted with a shrug to the news that Dalton was working with House, but you really could see a difference in velocity. Especially starting in 2015. He's been throwing bombs on a rope when it's needed (sometimes it's better to put air under it or "finesse" it) and his throws in general have a good amount of zip. Certainly above average in that category now, I'd say.

Btw, the steep decrease in INTs is more evidence of this. Let's hand it to the guy...15 INTs is pretty typical for most QBs for 1 season, and that's how many Dalton has thrown in the last 2 seasons combined.

Yes.  As bfine noted, his great strength of anticipation and timing were his greatest assets, but sometimes his worst enemy in the INT department.  You couple those attributes of his game with an increase in velocity, you get what we've seen in more recent times.  It's also safe to say his anticipation and timing has gotten better with experience as well....so that has some to do with it too.  He's no Dan Marino, but he has improved the velocity on his throws with improved mechanics after working with House.