07-17-2017, 08:14 AM
#1 We don't exactly have a bunch of veterans to pay that we need to free up the money right now. Very young team. A salary dump just for the sake of a salary dump of one of the most productive players in the majors over the course of the last decade is not good baseball.
#2 Votto is the best player we have and the best player we'll have in the next 2 decades at least. Probably the next 50 years.
#3 He draws crowds. Since Chapman left, he (and arguably Luis Castillo, though he isn't a household name yet) are the only reasons to watch the Reds. I personally want to continue to enjoy watching the Reds.
#4 You're not going to get anything even close to a reasonable return. Even if they got Clint Frazier AND Gleybor Torres (the Yankee's top 2 prospects and top 15 prospects) I would still consider it a bad deal because prospects are still prospects. And we wouldn't get that deal anyway. We've seen plenty of young guys completely flame out. We know what Votto is and he's extraordinary.
#5 Votto doesn't rely on foot speed, bat speed or extreme power to be good. He is elite at not swinging at balls and putting the correct angle of the bat on the ball to produce a hit. Not only are those things incredibly difficult to teach to anyone, they also age extraordinarily well. So there's a reasonable chance that, at the age of 40, he'll still be getting on base at a .400 clip. He may not be a #3 hitter at that age, but he'll definitely still be worth his contract and more. There are currently 10 players in the majors who are reaching base at that rate. His value will not decline any time soon.
#6 This idea is stupid.
#2 Votto is the best player we have and the best player we'll have in the next 2 decades at least. Probably the next 50 years.
#3 He draws crowds. Since Chapman left, he (and arguably Luis Castillo, though he isn't a household name yet) are the only reasons to watch the Reds. I personally want to continue to enjoy watching the Reds.
#4 You're not going to get anything even close to a reasonable return. Even if they got Clint Frazier AND Gleybor Torres (the Yankee's top 2 prospects and top 15 prospects) I would still consider it a bad deal because prospects are still prospects. And we wouldn't get that deal anyway. We've seen plenty of young guys completely flame out. We know what Votto is and he's extraordinary.
#5 Votto doesn't rely on foot speed, bat speed or extreme power to be good. He is elite at not swinging at balls and putting the correct angle of the bat on the ball to produce a hit. Not only are those things incredibly difficult to teach to anyone, they also age extraordinarily well. So there's a reasonable chance that, at the age of 40, he'll still be getting on base at a .400 clip. He may not be a #3 hitter at that age, but he'll definitely still be worth his contract and more. There are currently 10 players in the majors who are reaching base at that rate. His value will not decline any time soon.
#6 This idea is stupid.
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