07-18-2017, 05:59 PM
(07-18-2017, 03:49 PM)ochocincos Wrote: But it's not like DK and Bernard have been terrible. They've been overall solid players with some bumps and bruises along the way.
The way I view it is that if Palmer didn't demand a trade and sit out, the Bengals wouldn't have drafted Dalton and also not have received those picks.
Keeping Palmer, IMO, would likely not have resulted in any better situation for the Bengals. In fact, it could have been worse than five playoff appearances in a row, as Palmer only had two from 2004 through 2010 (2005, 2009).
If you're going to say there was a blunder, it was the selections of DK and/or Bernard over some better players, not the Palmer trade itself.
Agreed. I wanted Palmer gone before he asked for a trade. As good as he is, I wasn't a believer in his mental makeup. He had the "look" of a leader but the mentality of a soft rich boy from California...which is what he was. Plus he's never stopped with the inexplicable INTs and fumbles during his career.
So trading him for a couple decent players and netting Dalton as a replacement was a huge win in my opinion. I'm not arguing against what LL is saying. Just saying that I don't see that exchange as a blunder.
(07-18-2017, 04:09 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Honestly - Pickens, Dillon, Spikes, TJ, Johnson, Palmer, Joseph all were disgruntled here. That speaks volumes to the organization quality. They can't all just be loose canons.
Add in Chad. Chad asked for a trade in 2008 because he wanted defensive help and we ignored that side in free agency. People think Chad was a goofball, but he wanted to win as much as anyone, and his reasoning had merit.
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