Bengals Turned Down 2nd Rounder

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(08-10-2017, 08:43 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I would not be saying this team was stupid if McCarron goes elsewhere via trade and becomes an All-Pro.

The team is set on Dalton as the starter, so pulling the trigger on a high draft pick for a back-up is a no brainer.

As for Driskel, why haven't teams come offering for him, that's easy...he has no game film. However, the coaches saw enough in him to claim him on waivers and waste a spot on the 53 man roster all year for him. If he is good enough to be on the 53...then McCarron can be dealt. 

As for the lawyers, they want him to be an Unrestricted Free Agent at the end of the year, due to the first year being spent on the NFI part time, the Bengals want him to be a Restricted Free Agent where they can place the tender on him. No real reason to believe the NFI will keep that first season from counting and he'll be gone at season's end....for nothing. 

If Dalton goes down, it would not matter if it was Driskel or McCarron coming in. The team will scale back the playbook and just like when McCarron was in there, everyone else will have to play at a much higher level. It's why Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring, the team around him, was amazing and he didn't make many mistakes. 

I just don't understand planning for failure vs planning to win. Keeping McCarron is planning for Dalton to be hurt (which he isn't often at all.) and that is planning for failure.

I really don't get this philosophy.  Why sign backups and draft depth players, then?  That's just planning to fail.  By this logic, every team should just roll with a rookie UDFA QB every year because the season is over once the starter goes down.  Of course, the Pats won a SB with a backup QB named Brady, but whatever.  I guess the Texans didn't get the memo when they beat us with their 3rd stringer a few years back.

I personally believe McCarron is a game manager, but that's still worth a lot more than a 2nd in today's NFL. There's a reason why teams make ridiculous draft day trades for the chance to draft a top prospect and back the Brinks truck up to the doors of guys like Osweiler and Glennon.  If I buy a new car, I'm not just going to sell the old one for half of it's blue book value just because the only reason I'm going to drive it is my new one's in the shop.  

To this point, McCarron has proven to be at least good enough to beat bad teams.  With our schedule this year, we play a lot of bad teams.  If Andy goes down for a lengthy period, I do think McCarron can keep us in the playoff hunt.  With Driskel, the season is probably over.  

The other big part of this equation is that Marvin is in a contract year. With his job on the line,he's going to hang his fist on the table to keep the backup QB he knows he can win with, and unless someone blows Mike away with a deal, it's not going to happen. The positive here is, there's no excuses for Lewis.  

McCarron really doesn't have a leg to stand on in his case.  A player has to be on a full pay roster list for at least 6 games to accrue a season towards FA.  He was on the active roster for three games his rookie year, and the NFI the rest of the year.  The NFI is not a full pay list.  For a player on the NFI, the team literally gets to choose how much they pay the player, from $0.00 all the way up to their normal salary.  If McCarron's argument is that the Bengals chose to pay him his full salary while he was on the NFI, so he should accrue a season, he's going to get massive resistance from the NFLPA.  Even if he somehow wins, the owners are going to dick over every player that goes on the NFI to ensure they hold their rights another year.