08-17-2017, 03:02 AM
(08-17-2017, 02:50 AM)mikey6866 Wrote: Youre obviously sour on both players but to call dre k a bust is a pretty big stretch. Hes turned into a really solid starter. He may not be a superstar right now but hes a pretty good corner with room to get better.
I said they're both busts *as first round picks*.
Nobody uses first round picks to get "solid starters" 5 years later. If Kirkpatrick was a 4th or 5th round pick, he would have been a great pick. He wasn't. He was the 17th overall pick in the draft, and it took him 5 years to become a solid starter. That's a bust. The same way that a guy who is taken in the 7th round and does nothing but be a decent special teamer for 3-4 years before exiting the league is not a bust, because that's a good return on a 7th round pick.
That's not to say Kirkpatrick can't have a good career as a decent starter from now on. It just means when we look back on the draft history, it was a bad decision to use the 17th overall pick on him because 1st round picks need to be stars, not take 5 years to become solid starters.
Granted, Dennard might be a bust regardless of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round status. He's shown less in his first three years than Kirkpatrick did.
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