{The Ultimate ANDY DALTON Mega Thread}

[Shake n Blake]

(09-11-2017, 02:06 AM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I'm guessing that there are probably 20 quarterbacks in the NFL right now that are better than AD on a consistent basis.

C'mon man. Here's Dalton's rankings by season in passer rating:

2016: 15th (despite getting pummeled)
2015: 2nd
2014: 25th
2013: 15th
2012: 13th (despite getting pummeled)
2011: 20th

Average ranking: 15th

Now you also have to consider that many QB's that rank better than Dalton in 1 or 2 years wind up being awful or falling completely out of the league. Guys like Josh Freeman, Kaepernick, Nick Foles, etc. Honestly, very few QBs have been "consistently" better than Dalton and certainly not 20. We're just taking 1 bad game and redefining his career with it.

Brady, Wilson and Palmer were all bad this week, but no one is tearing their careers down over 1 game. Here's a list of all-time single game INT leaders:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_single_game.htm

QB's with 6 INTs in a single game includes:

Peyton Manning
Brett Favre
Ryan Fitzpatrick last year (sacked 0 times)


QB's with 5 INTs includes:

Drew Brees
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Tony Romo
Joe Flacco 
Russell Wilson
Eli Manning
Jay Cutler
Boomer Esiason (vs Patriots during SB season)
Pretty much every legend ever (Marino, Elway, Favre, Warner, Unitas, Tarkenton, Moon, Fouts, etc)

It happens. So why are we acting like it automatically shows that Dalton is a turd? I'd understand if Dalton had a habit of such games, but he doesn't. He has exactly 1 other 4 INT game in a career that spans 94 games. He has exactly 2 games (including this one) below a 52.2 rating since his rookie year. The 2.0 game and the 28.4 he posted yesterday. Nothing else even close. 

Apologies for the novel, but with all the emotion fueled responses, I figured it'd be nice to put things in proper perspective. Dalton is a good QB. Top 15 at least, based on history. He's not a superman that can overcome an offense in complete disarray, and yes...he's capable of shitting the bed...but most QBs are just as capable of looking just as bad. 

(09-11-2017, 07:58 AM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: Worst QBR of any QB in 12 years.....Savage from Houston was 12x better and got benched at halftime....says a lot. Dalton needed to be benched on sheer principle. The O-line didn't help, but Dalton was a pile of turds yesterday.

QBR is a load of crap.

Last year, Fitzpatrick went 20-44-188-0-6 with a clean pocket (0 sacks). How was Dalton's performance worse than that? I know yesterday was awful, but there's been plenty of worse stat lines over the last 10 years. From guys that weren't sacked 5 times.