09-13-2017, 01:08 PM
(09-13-2017, 11:26 AM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Every coach has their down-falls, and we don't know the entire context of what he has to deal with (does Mike Brown give him full responsibility to win, etc)). I am not convinced he would get another shot after these last few years, but when he was killing it with his playoff appearances? I believe he would of almost certainly got another shot had we fired him after the Steelers debacle. I mean you said it yourself; he can build a winner and win, but he just cannot get over the proverbial hump.
I think Marv's ability to "build a winner" is a bit overstated. He's a .500 coach. People praise the 5 straight playoff appearances and forget that he also coached these teams:
2003: 8-8
2004: 8-8
2006: 8-8
2007: 7-9
2008: 4-11-1
2010: 4-12
2016: 6-9-1
2017 is also shaping up to be a bad year. Marv inherited much of the talent from the 1st core. Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Willie Anderson, Rich Braham, Levi Jones, Justin Smith, Brian Simmons, etc. He also inherited the #1 overall pick, where Palmer was a no-brainer. So that entire core was inherited. Most agree that he underachieved with that group, and ultimately it fell apart when guys got paid.
Seeing how Duke Tobin was there when all those players were drafted, maybe we're giving the wrong man credit for building 2 "winners"? Especially when Marv wasn't even there when the 1st core was drafted?
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