09-24-2017, 01:24 AM
(09-24-2017, 12:13 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Warrick is 11th in receiving in franchise history (among WR's) and he only played just over 4 years due to injury cutting his career short. Warrick was a good receiver. One of the best we've ever had. Despite you thinking otherwise, Darnay was also good and so was Tony McGee. Yeah, Chad and TJ were rookies, but they were targeted a combined 102 times. They were part of the offense. Kitna was competent. The backfield was arguably the best in team history. The line had some greats.
We had way too many good/competent pieces to be fielding an offense that finished dead last in points scored, with 3 goose eggs.
Ok, so....
11th in receiving yards (among WR's) equates to 2,811 yards... or less than 100 more than Jermaine Gresham. Warrick might have been a ok WR 3/4, but being drafted where he did, that is borderline bust. injuries or not - see chris perry and maybe eifert. When you consider 11, one of the best you ever had - that is kind of sad.
Darnay scott was a fine WR, and mcgee was also fine.
in 2001, 6 of the top 7 Leaders in catches had a catch rate of 60% or less.
In 2016, after losing Sanu and Jones, only 1 player failed to catch less than 60% and that was lafell with 59.8%.
So either the skill players couldn't catch in 2001, or Kitna wasn't very good... it has to be at least one or the other, but i think it is a combination of both. Speaking of Kitna, he played 15/16 games the two years before signing with the bengals and had ratings in the 70's. Decent backup - terrible starter. Think Ryan Fitzpatrick. Except maybe not as good.
And since you said the OL had some all time greats (with an S), who outside of Anderson would be considered an all time great anywhere? Webb, Dwyer, Braham, Goff? Braham was good no doubt, but hard to consider him an all time great.
Anyway, i'm not trying to defend Brat, but that 2001 team was atrocious all the way arouound. Think of it this way, in 2003 he took largely the same group of guys and turned them into a competent offense. in 2003 Chad was a Beast and Warrick was a good number 2. Jon Kitna had a good year behind a much improved OL and the bengals drastically improved.
But to think 2001 was anything close to talented is LOL.
Anyway, going to night, tired of reading about the politcs. Whodey bengals fans.