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Daltons Pocket Presence
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(09-26-2017, 12:16 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Yes, I understand that, but it's also not always the case. Dalton still needs to take advantage of it when it's there.

Check out this video on Dalton's pocket presence leading up to the draft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrJWBMBfWGE

Notice how in the video he never once steps up in the pocket to throw. He always stays back when he's looking to throw. Dalton also throws flat footed a lot of the time. He doesn't step into his throws.
The only times he ever moves up in the pocket are when he decides to run. And he doesn't have the same fluid running now as he did back then. He's gotten clunkier.

Now watch this pocket presence video of Drew Breees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIP5KfOVgyo

Brees is a shorter QB like Dalton but he's a master at surviving in the pocket, stepping up when pressure comes from outside, and having enough agility/mobility needed to avoid a lot of sacks.

Dalton's lack of a strong pocket presence and awareness combined with a porous OL results in constant terrible performance even when pressure isn't always there.
The Bengals need a QB with better pocket presence than Dalton.



....or a good o line to keep him settled.  Chicken/egg.  People are comparing him to HOFers. He's not a HOFer.  However, if the Ravens can win a SB with Trent ***** Dilfer, guys like Andy Dalton can too.  You don't just find a Drew Brees, Pig Pen, A Rodgers, Brady that often.  You either have one of those guys, or you build the trenches to win.  It's that simple.

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RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Murdock2420 - 09-26-2017, 12:55 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 12:31 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - falsestart - 09-26-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Gohards - 09-26-2017, 01:46 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Joelist - 09-26-2017, 01:47 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-26-2017, 06:51 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 12:49 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Pat5775 - 09-26-2017, 02:32 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Stonyhands - 09-26-2017, 03:52 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nately120 - 09-26-2017, 07:17 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - McC - 09-26-2017, 12:04 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 12:16 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-26-2017, 12:24 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 12:37 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - McC - 09-26-2017, 12:45 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 01:48 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 02:09 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 02:45 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 03:42 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 03:48 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 04:10 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 04:17 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 05:10 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-27-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 05:15 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-27-2017, 09:29 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-27-2017, 10:04 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-27-2017, 03:34 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 05:26 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-27-2017, 09:25 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 01:26 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 01:41 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 01:59 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - ochocincos - 09-26-2017, 02:48 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 03:04 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 03:46 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Pat5775 - 09-26-2017, 01:44 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Millhouse - 09-26-2017, 01:30 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - McC - 09-26-2017, 03:53 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2017, 03:54 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 04:14 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 04:16 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 04:19 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 04:28 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 04:35 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 04:42 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2017, 04:55 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-26-2017, 05:22 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - bengalfan74 - 09-26-2017, 07:05 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Housh - 09-26-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - thillan - 09-26-2017, 10:55 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - McC - 09-26-2017, 10:56 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-26-2017, 11:06 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-27-2017, 09:00 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - SHRacerX - 09-27-2017, 10:06 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - fortyyearfan - 09-27-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Aquapod770 - 09-27-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - muskiesfan - 09-27-2017, 10:28 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-27-2017, 02:11 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-27-2017, 02:56 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - muskiesfan - 09-27-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - fortyyearfan - 09-27-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Housh - 09-27-2017, 08:27 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-28-2017, 12:45 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - CornerBlitz - 09-28-2017, 04:04 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-28-2017, 07:08 AM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-28-2017, 03:19 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - PhilHos - 09-28-2017, 03:25 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - muskiesfan - 09-28-2017, 05:24 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-28-2017, 11:43 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Nicomo Cosca - 09-28-2017, 11:38 PM
RE: Daltons Pocket Presence - Brownshoe - 09-28-2017, 03:26 PM
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