09-29-2017, 04:18 AM
(09-28-2017, 05:37 PM)muskiesfan Wrote: Dalton has been provided 1 elite weapon (Green) and 1 that was borderline elite when healthy (Eifert). Other than that, he hasn't been surrounded by the kind of talent that Bengals fans claim he has.
I can point to Dalton's weapons because they're not nearly as good as people claim they are. Jerome Simpson had the best year of his career with Andy Dalton (50/725/4). He had a productive year in Minnesota in '13 (48/726/1), but his most targets, catches, touchdowns, and longest catch all came with Dalton. LaFell put up the second best stats of his career with Dalton last year (best year was with Brady). Gresham's best year was with Dalton. To try and spin it that Dalton is holding these guys back is laughable at best.
The real issue is the Bengals having the smallest scouting department in the NFL. That is limiting the ability to find talent in the draft. Also, every player the Bengals draft or sign, Hobson puts out a story on how they're already Canton bound. You can argue that people don't read his articles, but that's just a total lie. There are plenty of Bengals fans who read and believe every article he writes.
People need to appreciate the QB we have. No, he's not elite. He's above average and has elevated the play of his weapons. The only weapon that has elevated Dalton is Green.
The 2 things Bengals fans seem to not comprehend are that 1) every weapon given Dalton is not the greatest ever and 2) the front office hasn't made a real effort to surround him with the championship caliber weapons that fans believe he has. If this front office used free agency instead of worrying about comp picks and made the efforts that 31 other teams do to give their QBs as much as possible, we'd have probably won a playoff game now (even in spite of the owner/GM, head coach, and OLine coach).
Using this elite QB argument isn't valid either. Every team tries to get the best talent they can for their QBs. That's why they have huge scouting departments that aren't family and why they sign players in free agency.
Ok you must be ***** high. Most of our 1st round and 2nd rounds picks in Dalton’s time have been offense. The front office can’t help that Eifert can’t stay on the field. They also haven’t been picking in the top 10 every year so it’s a little difficult to get the elite Wr when others are picking in front of us. The first time in Andy’s career we have a top 10 pick they select a guy who could one day be elite if he could stay healthy. Seriously you must be high or stupid to think that just because every skill position surrounding Andy isn’t a pro bowler that the organization hasn’t truly put forth an effort to surround Andy with talent. Truth is that all th guys we have had very successful college careers and Andy can’t read a defensive backfield to know who to throw to.
Your argument is that Andy hasn’t succeeded due to not having enough talent around him...I say our talented personnel have not succeeded due to not having a QB who can get them the opportunities to succeed. Plus 2014 called and they want your lame excuse for Andy back. Don’t you know now that Zampese is gone we can go back to blaming the o-line.
