NFL NETWORK SAYS BENGALS STILL IN AFC NORTH HUNT.

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(09-30-2017, 10:13 AM)Daddy-O Wrote: Typical Marvin.  I get so tired of the playing-not-to-lose mentality.  At halftime they should've changed it up, throw in a little up-tempo, spread them out, etc.  Instead, stick to the same plan and HOPE the defense holds.

Marvin would never try something like that because in his mind that would not shorten the game and would tire his defense.  He always goes with the conservative approach because that's what supposed to be the formula.

His message and strategies are stale, what worked in the 90's does not necessarily work today.  Heck, last week Pittsburgh got the ball back with a little over 20 seconds left in the half deep in their own territory.  Ben threw downfield 2 or 3 times, hoping for something, anything, maybe in a pass interference to steal a FG before the half.  Think Marvie would do that?  Nope.  He'll take a knee with over a minute left.

Yep, and the reason that it doesn't work today is offenses are more high-powered and are so diverse in what they do that you need to move the chains and score through the air.  Completing passes and moving the chains keeps the clock running and your defense off the field, but running the ball ineffectively might keep the clock running by it doesn't move the chains and that doesn't keep your defense on the sidelines.

Marvin used to have slogans for the year and do his best to get the team fired up, which granted that he wasn't great at it, but he doesn't even try anymore.  The team is not inspired to go out and win games and so they won't win games.

(09-30-2017, 10:27 AM)Bengalsrob Wrote: Very seldom do we keep the pressure on when we have the lead. We got what, a field goal in the second half? As usual, the other team makes halftime adjustments, and we don't. I guess we didn't think we needed any since the first half went well. The new coordinator did seem to bring life into the team, at least for a half. Dalton still overthrew wide open receivers, and his dumb grins are getting almost as annoying as Marvin's blank stares. I'm at and have been at the point where I'd just as soon lose every freaking game, hopefully get a real coach, and perhaps a QB and an O-line that is more than "serviceable" as well. Realistically, we're not going anywhere this year, maybe we can just do a competent job at being what we really are...a bad football team with no real leadership or direction, get the high draft pick and reset for next year. Even if we accomplish being bad correctly, I can't imagine getting a coach that's a difference maker. Watching football channel yesterday and the nightmare of Herm Edwards came on..... please MB don't let that happen, get a real staff just once... an experienced coordinator with real potential for a coach, and a complete new staff...I think the fans and the players both deserve it!!

People say that Marvin fails to make halftime adjustments, but I think that's false and he just makes shitty halftime adjustments.  His halftime adjustments are "let's run the ball to hold the lead and grind out the clock, and, on defense, let's only rush four to prevent giving up the big play to let them back into it," which causes the team to lose the fire and the energy, while also letting the other team easily stop us on offense because we're predictable and not attacking and it allows the opposing offense to finally start picking us apart.

We forget how good Dalton was two years ago before the injury, so bring in a new head coach to inspire the team, give Dalton a line, and let this core of players make a few runs at it.

Marvin needs to go.