Tale of Two Andy's

[Shake n Blake]

(10-04-2017, 06:43 PM)Deanlj69 Wrote: It is relevant with play calling, motivation, basic strategy and adjustments but not relevant for over thrown and under thrown passes failure to read the D and not spotting the pass rush.

Marvin has been dismal and we all know this but Andy has choked. Go watch the games again. His play can’t be blamed entirely or even mostly on bad coaching. And please don’t ever mention him in the same breath as Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger etc. he has not come close to earning that right. The fact is we are talking about a mid tier qb who at times flashes something more. Need we forget about great seasons from quarterbacks such as Brian Sipe, Don Majkowski, Derek Anderson, Tommy Maddox. I can obviously name many more. Andy is who he is. If we had the 85 bears D, the steel curtain D, Ravens D from Dilfer and Flacco bowls then yeah Andy’s play might not be as relevant but unfortunately this team is built where the quarterback needs to elevate the team and that’s due to bad personnel choices, bad coaching and bad cap management.

I’m done with this but hopefully Andy proves me wrong but I think they need to move on from him and the coaching staff

Marvin didn't make guys fumble, disappear or get burned either. It's like magic. Very predictable and depressing magic.

(10-04-2017, 08:17 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Do you guys want me to go dig up my QB floor theory thread where I compare Andy Dalton over multiple years to many QBs and illustrate through Passer Rating that Andy Dalton has bad games more often than anyone in the NFL and that those bad games are actually considerably worse than the other QBs in the league?

I'm happy to revisit that and post a link. There are many years worth of statistical data showing that Andy is bad more often than any other QB and that his bad games are worse than any other QB. The history is so long that Andy Dalton is what he is in that area. He's the poster child for inconsistency and wild swings in performance, which is why he's so polarizing.

Knock yourself out.