Good Andy/Bad Andy

[Shake n Blake]

(10-05-2017, 04:31 PM)hollodero Wrote: 1. Agreed. Andy is one of the better QBs in the league, and QB ratings seem to undermine that point of view.


2. I agree with that as well. Flacco is a worse QB then Dalton by my evaluation and probably also by all measurements except playoff wins.


3. That is also true. Romo, overall, was a good QB. Stop saying things I agree with :) So to disagree a little, while his team was never too good overall, he often had some fine recievers and he did have a certain talent to choke up games he looked good in for most of the time. I stand by that assertion even though I do not have any numbers to prove it.

1. I don't think his career rating undermines anything. It's actually reflective of how good he's been. Dalton is currently 9th among active QB's in passer rating at 89.1. He's actually ahead of some guys that I think are his equal or in the same tier. He's ahead of Carr, Palmer, Luck, Stafford, Newton, Tannehill, Smith, Bradford, Eli, and Flacco among others.

2. I sincerely believe that if you swapped their teams, Flacco would be the choker and Dalton would be wearing a ring. Not talking about the rubber one. It just seems the Ravens are a more professional franchise that rises in big moments. They don't look out of place. They put their players in good spots to succeed. 

3. I feel Romo botched that hold in his first playoff game, and that reputation stuck with him after that. I don't feel he had a bunch of choke worthy moments after that, really. It was mostly just team-wide disappointment. Going 8-8 several years in a row. The team performed below expectations (expectations that were probably high because they have stars on their helmets) and people blamed Romo for it due to his rep. 

It seems the only way to change a reputation like that is to win it all. Eli Manning was viewed as a semi-bust before he got a ring. Then people suddenly started muttering the "e" word when talking about him. Saying he was better than Peyton (lol). Seriously, perception in sports is so off sometimes.