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Good Andy/Bad Andy
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(10-05-2017, 03:36 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Good post. I agree with much of what you say, but passer rating is the best measurement we have available, and I do think think it balances out. What I mean by that is if a QB has a career passer rating near 90...he's probably had a good career and it's safe to say he's a good QB. 

Or if Dalton has fewer bad ratings than Joe Flacco over the course of 7-10 seasons, it's probably not a fluke or something you can chalk up to as Dalton padding his stats late in bad games. That's honestly something all QB's do, and Dalton has had fewer chances to do it seeing how he's been on a winning team.

You bring up Tony Romo, and he's another guy who I felt didn't deserve all the criticism aimed at him. Lo and behold, he happened to play for the only other owner that refused to hire a GM and had a heavy hand in shaping the roster. But anyway, I feel the Cowboys never had a great team around Romo, and he always got a disproportionate amount of blame for their shortcomings. They rarely had a good defense and Jason Garrett is about as mediocre as it gets as a HC.

This is going to sound like a bash, but i don't want/mean it to. 

When it comes to passer rating, you have to keep in mind the sliding scale. I spent some time a couple years ago looking at the passer rating, and when adjust for era, 90 is the new 85. 

I hold fast to the belief that Dalton is a consistent upper middle QB who can be 6-10 when he's not throwing the ball to the other team (which he's done a good job of cutting down on since '14--with the exception of the last game against Bmore when he blew his chance at a 90+ and top 10 finish). But if he can overcome Marv for the most part (that's what this discussion is about--his quantity of good games vs bad) in the regular season, he needs to do it in the post season. 

It doesn't matter how good, and how often, he can be in the regular season, playing for the Bengals he's not going to be remembered for that if he can't win in the post season. 

Speaking of Romo, he's a good comparison based on this. His career rating puts him ahead of a guy like Big Ben, but because of their differing post season records, he's not looked upon as an equal to Ben. Not even close, really.





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Good Andy/Bad Andy - Shake n Blake - 10-04-2017, 10:39 PM
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