Good Andy/Bad Andy

[Shake n Blake]

(10-05-2017, 09:29 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Shake,

1. I appreciate the thread. I will go back and crunch these numbers as well as I am struggling to understand your %s and how they add up to over 100%.

2. Also, I totally disagree with how you weight the QB position in general. It's by far the most important position in all of sports. There's no close 2nd place to that. You are weighing Andy's impact on the game the same as everyone else when it's 10x that.

3. I also disagree with you laying everything at the feet of the HC and giving Andy Dalton a pass. Marvin doesn't make Andy have back, to back, to back, turnovers against the Chargers in the playoffs with the Bengals leading. Marvin doesn't miss wide open WRs. Marvin doesn't throw INTs. Marvin doesn't throw and INT on the Steelers 4 yard line and then go break Andy's thumb while he's trying to make a tackle. Marvin Lewis doesn't miss seeing wide open WRs on the field or call a play for Andy to stare down AJ or throw it away. That's all on AD.

I lay about 80% of the Bengals current 1-3 record squarely on Andy Dalton. 20% better play from him and they are 4-0. He influences the game more than any other player and he was disgustingly bad the first two games and not very good when it mattered against Green Bay. 2 FG attempts in the 2nd half and no TDs is not good at all.

I think Marvin has his short comings and that AD can be a great QB. But he has to find consistency for the Bengals to be really really good. And, frankly, he has to not suck as hard as he does when he is having an off game. In general, the team around him has been supremely talented and he hasn't done much with it.

1. The percentages aren't meant to add up to 100%. The reason for this is that 90+ ratings also include all the 100+ rating games. Same with 70 and below. That will also include all the ratings in the 50's, 60's and anything lower than 70.

2. What does that have to do with this thread? This thread is about how often Dalton has bad games (and good, great or mediocre ones). Full stop.

3. I just covered all of that in my reply to RFaulk. I'm giving ALL players a pass, not just Andy. I refuse to believe that laundry list of choke jobs is all coincidence. These are some Bengals legends were talking about, all dropping duds. It's not just Andy, and I'm not sure why we pretend it is.

And if you acknowledge that it's not just Andy, then why do we excuse everyone else, but hold Andy accountable? Is Andy supposed to be immune to what afflicts everyone else?