Dalton haters?

[Shake n Blake]

(10-09-2017, 03:13 PM)sandwedge Wrote: So true! Not every pass Brady, Brees or Rodgers throws is on target. Even the great ones have a clunker of a game.... 

If you take any QB in Dalton's tier (Wilson, Stafford, Newton, etc) and give him the "Andy treatment", I could pick out throws every game that looked awful, games where they were terrible and craft some weak narrative about how they suck. These are all good QB's. It's just that their fans don't hyperventilate every time they're not playing at the peak of their abilities.

(10-09-2017, 03:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I cannot speak of Andy's arm strength; I can only go by what those paid to assess such things claim.

I will say that the weakest arm in the NFL is most likely the strongest arm any of us have seen in real life. I served with a guy that played at a small school college program. The guy's arm was incredible, he would wow folks with his throws. 

Now this was a nobody from nowhere. I'm sure a player such as Andy would amaze layman that witnessed it. I will agree that the ability to throw a long ball is no indicator of arm strength. How much zip can you put on that 10 yard out throwing off your back foot or on the move. 

You mean when he uncorks one of these ropes on the run?





He's unleashed several of these over the last 2.5 years. I've even seen you say "wow" in the GD thread for one.

(10-09-2017, 04:10 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Being good every single game time and being a good or great QB do not go hand in hand. I get it that AD is going to have some bad games. All players do.

Andy was horrific the first 2 games of this season and it cost the team 2 wins. Andy has had horrifically... catastrophically... historically bad games. Not every Qb has games that are THAT bad THAT often. Hes been inconsistent with wild swings in performance like this every season he's been in the league with the EXCEPTION of 2015. 2015 is NOT the RULE it's the EXCEPTION. This season and last clearly prove that. He was the iceberg into the Titanic the first 2 games, okay in the 2nd (1 good half, 1 crap half), and great against the Browns and Bills. That's really easy to understand.

First off, Dalton has only had 2 games that were "historically bad". His 2.0 game and the Ravens game this year. To be frank, the Ravens game wasn't even "historically bad". He had a 28.4 rating for that one with 4 INT's. Nothing else since his rookie season has been even close to being "historically bad".


We're taking 2 games in a 101 game career and pretending it happens all the time. It doesn't. 

Plus when you look at other QB's stat pages, the truth comes out. 

Joe Flacco just had a game where he went 8-18-28-0-2 (12.0 rating). Yes. 28 yards and a 12.0 rating. He also has posted the following ratings:

10.0 (playoffs) - full game with only 34 yards...yet the Ravens won
18.2 (playoffs)
22.2
23.8 (4 INT's)
27.2
37.4
38.2

Flacco sucks though. So what about Big Ben?

15.1 
22.6 (playoffs)
30.7 (3 INTs)
33.6
34.1
35.5 (playoffs)
37.8 (5 INTs)
37.8 (3 INTs)
38.5
38.7

Dalton has 2 games in his entire career (playoffs included) with a passer rating below 40. Ben and Flacco have a combined 18. 

So I'm just not getting why you believe Dalton has all these "historically bad" games, and has them more often than others.