When does the honeymoon with Tobin end?

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(10-26-2017, 11:09 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We can't say he's done good 4 out of the last 7. These last 2 drafts are Incomplete grades at best. For a Great Draft, you need atleast 1 Pro Bowl player and another quality starter or two. For a Good draft, I'd say you need 2 quality starters.

We're assuming Mixon and Ross will be stars. And Mixon looks talented...but he's averaging 3.2 ypc.

Lawson looks good too...but most of his sacks were in 1 game against a backup Tackle. He's going to need to keep doing it against good players and he needs to work a lot on his run defense. He's 1 dimensional now.

I'd say that our last Good+ draft was 2011.

From 2016 - William Jackson looks good. Who else looks like a really good starter? Boyd - No. Vigil - Below average at best so far. Billings? He's been bad so far.

From 2012 - Dre Kirkpatrick is the only player still on the roster.

2011 - Great Draft with Dalton, Green, Boling.
2010 - Great Draft with Dunlap and Atkins.
2009 - Huber, Andre Smith, Maualuga, Michael Johnson - I'd call that an average to above average draft.
2008 - Bad Draft.
2007 - Leon Hall and no one else. Average draft.

Just because players from 2012 aren't on the roster doesn't mean it was a bad draft. If that was the case most of our drafts will be bad, because we apparently don't extend players. We got Zeitler, Jones, and Sanu from 2012 too, so it was a GREAT draft. 

2011 - was a great draft too (Green, Dalton, Boling).
2012 - see above
2013 - Average at best
2014 - Below average
2015 - Bad
2016 - Good+ so far - we have WJIII (who looks good), Vigil (who leads the team in tackles),Fejedelem who seems to be a good special teams player, and an up and comer.
2017 - Great so far - Ross is a ?, Mixon looks good even though he has a bad YPC (due to OL), Lawson, and Willis look like they will be good players for years to come, and Jake Elliot seems to be doing great for the Eagles (we DID draft him, so you have to give props to our scouts. The coaches are the ones who let him go, and fairly so).

So all in all so far 4 out of the last 7 drafts have been good to great.