When does the honeymoon with Tobin end?

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(10-26-2017, 11:22 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I remember Jay Gruden banging on the table for Andy Dalton over Colin Kaepernick and Ryan Mallett, which was not what Mike Brown originally wanted. So it does seem the OC has some pull even if newly added to the team.
This makes me wonder what Bill Lazor might look for in next year's draft now that he is the OC...if he actually is still here after this year that is.

True, and that's a good point to keep in mind when people say a new coach won't have any power with Mike Brown.

If I'm Lazor, I'm screaming LINEMEN LINEMEN LINEMEN all offseason. I don't think we're bad anywhere else. Maybe a vet WR or a vet TE to backup Kroft. Those needs are more minor though. We're good at QB and RB. Green is Green. Kroft has been quietly been very impressive since Eifert went down. Ross is playing this week and we should get a good idea on what we have soon.

(10-26-2017, 11:26 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Your drafts from 5-6 years ago are supposed to be the ones that build the core of your team. Those guys are in their prime.

I argue that them not being on the roster still is a big deal.

Yeah, but you can't blame Tobin for not resigning those guys. 2012 was a good job by Tobin...then Mike opted not to retain those players. Not due to skill, but due to price.