When does the honeymoon with Tobin end?

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(10-26-2017, 10:16 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I read that article from 2000 about how the Bengals didn't give players shoes and individual jock strap yesterday and it really made me think...that was 6-7 years into Mike Browns tenure. The Bengals management has only worked for the Bengals...so none see how other organizations do things. They don't know that the way we do things are not the same.

Then Marvin has been here some 14-15 years. Alexander has been here some 24 years. Guenther has been with Marvin for some 14 years.

Lazor is outside. Maybe a few other assistants, but even they tend to stay here for a long time.

Without having outside people, you can't see how other teams do things...and it eventually leads to complacency.

Marvin came from outside years ago and came in and changed some things...but at some point he was indoctrinated into the 'Bengals way.'

They knew/know how other teams do things. It's not like it's a great kept secret. Players talk to other players. 

I read an article back around the time the Browns were rebooted (probably the same one you did), about how they treat their players...amenities like day care, doing players laundry, etc etc. Of course, that didn't do a damn thing for how they've played on the field and i'd never expect the Bengals to do anything like that, but they could certainly do a lot more than they do. Especially given how pathetically frugal they were back in the Spinney days.