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(08-17-2015, 08:02 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: None of what you typed is true.  The history did not go with the "team".  The Ravens franchise is considered by the NFL to be the new team and the Browns to be the old franchise that was suspended for three years.
The history did not go with the team because of the lawsuit.  It's a technicality.

The entire franchise- players, personnel, owner, etc.- went to Baltimore, so how would an expansion team, the new Browns, have a history with championships?

Everything that the old Browns did formed who the Ravens are, but nothing the old Browns did formed the new Browns (other than the name, location, other technicalities that have nothing to do with actual football on the field).
(08-17-2015, 08:08 PM)jason Wrote: Wait a minute...  BFritz is right.  In 1999 the Cleveland Browns (being an expansion franchise) had the first pick in the draft (Tim Couch).  In 1996 the Jets selected Keyshawn Johnson number 1.  Baltimore (who I will refer to as the Browns from now on on this board) selected in whatever spot the Browns earned the season before.  Ravens are the Browns. Wink

You would be referring to them as the Browns if there hadn't been a lawsuit.  Modell moved the entire franchise to Baltimore.

The old Browns (the new Ravens) EARNED those championships and that history, so you can't just start a new franchise and say that they get all the history just because they have the same name and location.
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RE: Why your team sucks - SteelCitySouth - 08-14-2015, 10:13 AM
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