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[Benton]

(11-21-2017, 03:05 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We've had 2 great drafts: Green/Dalton/Boling and Atkins/Dunlap.

I'd argue that we've had a bunch of other bad drafts.

Plus, is what Willie Anderson said valid? Are coaches spending too much time doing paperwork and not enough time coaching?

The offensive line is so bad this year that I doubt we have a great offense even with Jackson as the OC.

To the bold, I'm probably not going to sway your opinion. So I'll just share others'.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/04/how_each_nfl_team_has_-_or_has.html

Quote:

• The Bengals and Packers seem to be the epitome of building through the draft. The Bengals led the NFL with 38 drafted players on their roster last season (17 starters). The Packers had 37 drafted players on the roster and a led the league with 18 drafted starters.
• The Ravens and Steelers were both in the top 10 of the league in number of drafted players retained and drafted starters last season.
  

It's got a fairly nice listing of last year's draftees/starters versus winning percentage. Bengals have a good number of draftees and were above .500.  I'd put the winning percentage more on bad coaching than the 38 draftees on the roster, but I'm thinking you and I would disagree there.

From 2014:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/05/01/which-nfl-teams-have-been-best-draft-lately/H5mBGyXErkXptvVPFzg9TM/story.html

Quote:■ The Bengals and Vikings surprisingly appear at the top of most categories. The Bengals are tied for third in the league with 25 draft picks on the roster, are tied for third with 15 starters, T-3 with six first-rounders, T-3 with seven Pro Bowlers, and T-4 with two undrafted starters, including Pro Bowl linebacker Vontaze Burfict. The Vikings are T-3 with 25 draft picks, T-9 with five first-round picks, and second with four starters from the fifth-seventh rounds.

There's other similar links, but the theme pretty much is that Cincinnati is one of the better drafting teams in terms of getting, and playing, draft picks. If you're looking at every draft coming up with 2 Pro Bowlers in the first couple years, you're going to find very, very few teams that measure up. 

I think it's like the Pats or Steelers with championships. We do pretty well at the draft, so when we have a down year (and the last couple have stunk, for sure), it's more noticeable. 


To the rest, no idea on what Willie says. I don't work in an NFL office, and I have no idea how to compare them. And I don't think it would've mattered either, but that's mainly because I've never been a fan of Hue. I think he's good with the players, but that's about it. Never was a fan of his play calling, or his use of talent.