11-30-2017, 07:21 PM
All-time stats for Marvin Lewis against the Steelers (regular season):
8-21 (.276) record
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Dalton: 252 of 433 (58.2%) - 2697 yards (6.23 YPA) - 15 TDs to 13 INTs - 75.6 rating - 207.5 yards/game - 1.15 TDs/game - 3-10 record
Palmer: 234 of 410 (57.1%) - 2402 yards (5.86 YPA) - 17 TDs to 11 INTs - 76.7 rating - 200.2 yards/game - 1.42 TDs/game - 4-8 record
Piggy: 539 of 856 (63.0%) -- 6364 yards (7.43 YPA) - 36 TDs to 27 INTs - 86.4 rating - 235.7 yards/game - 1.33 TDs/game - 20-7 record
As you can see, both Palmer and Dalton have had eerily similar struggles as Bengals. Ben has usually played well, but leans heavily on the ground game much of the time. Palmer has since improved vs the Steelers, with a 92.3 rating against them since he left (2 games).
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Bengals Rushing: 628 carries, 2262 yards, 13 TDs
Steelers Rushing: 917 carries, 3613 yards, 28 TDs
Steelers have 289 more carries, 1351 more yards and 15 more TDs in these 29 games. Yikes.
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Bengals: 163 penalties for 1438 yards
Steelers: 149 penalties for 1498 yards
For those that blame the refs, there's not much evidence here. It does look like the Steelers are called for more interference penalties, seeing how their average per penalty is over 10 yards. Which in turn means we're called for more discipline penalties such as false starts.
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Bengals: 125 of 371 on 3rd downs (33.7%)
Steelers: 164 of 386 on 3rd downs (42.5%)
We're getting killed here, too.
Fwiw, a 42.5% conversion rate would rank 8th this year, while a 33.7% conversion rate would rank 29th.
So what do you guys make of all this?
8-21 (.276) record
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Dalton: 252 of 433 (58.2%) - 2697 yards (6.23 YPA) - 15 TDs to 13 INTs - 75.6 rating - 207.5 yards/game - 1.15 TDs/game - 3-10 record
Palmer: 234 of 410 (57.1%) - 2402 yards (5.86 YPA) - 17 TDs to 11 INTs - 76.7 rating - 200.2 yards/game - 1.42 TDs/game - 4-8 record
Piggy: 539 of 856 (63.0%) -- 6364 yards (7.43 YPA) - 36 TDs to 27 INTs - 86.4 rating - 235.7 yards/game - 1.33 TDs/game - 20-7 record
As you can see, both Palmer and Dalton have had eerily similar struggles as Bengals. Ben has usually played well, but leans heavily on the ground game much of the time. Palmer has since improved vs the Steelers, with a 92.3 rating against them since he left (2 games).
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Bengals Rushing: 628 carries, 2262 yards, 13 TDs
Steelers Rushing: 917 carries, 3613 yards, 28 TDs
Steelers have 289 more carries, 1351 more yards and 15 more TDs in these 29 games. Yikes.
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Bengals: 163 penalties for 1438 yards
Steelers: 149 penalties for 1498 yards
For those that blame the refs, there's not much evidence here. It does look like the Steelers are called for more interference penalties, seeing how their average per penalty is over 10 yards. Which in turn means we're called for more discipline penalties such as false starts.
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Bengals: 125 of 371 on 3rd downs (33.7%)
Steelers: 164 of 386 on 3rd downs (42.5%)
We're getting killed here, too.
Fwiw, a 42.5% conversion rate would rank 8th this year, while a 33.7% conversion rate would rank 29th.
So what do you guys make of all this?
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
