08-22-2015, 02:36 PM
(08-22-2015, 11:19 AM)djs7685 Wrote: If Andy throws the ball to the defense, it's his fault, not Gio's for fumbling 2 quarters earlier. I have no problem cutting Andy some slack for the turnovers that are legitimately not his fault.
Could've fooled me.
djs7685 Wrote:A.J. didn't drop the pass, so stop it. The defender broke it up. Did you even watch the play? Have you ever played WR or CB in your life? Sure, A.J. could have done more on that pass, but let's stop acting like he dropped it, that's absurd. He was adjusting to an underthrown ball and the defense made a play and A.J. didn't put enough effort in to haul it in. I have no problem knocking A.J. for the effort on the play.
Firstly, the ball was not underthrown.
Secondly, you really want to go the "have you ever played [insert position here]" game? Have you ever played QB? No, you haven't, so by your own logic, you have no right to critize Dalton.
Thirdly, the defender did knock the ball down true, however, AJ had both hands on the ball and could easily have secured it so it would NOT have been knocked out. That's what I mean by he dropped it. AJ is a great receiver and had 2 hands on the ball. It should NOT have been knocked out of his hands.
Lastly, it sure sounds like you're trying to excuse AJ dropping, er excuse me, not securing the football. At least, in the same manner that people supposedly "defend" Dalton by pointing out the rest of the team's issues in the playoffs.
djs Wrote:And you wonder why people think you continue to be the 2nd biggest Andy nuthugger on the boards
No one thinks that of me and even if they did, I certainly wouldn't care enough to wonder why. But hey, why deal with facts when you can make things up?
djs Wrote:Also, did I say it's "100% Andy's fault for every turnover"?? No, I didn't. I think it's stupid to say that Gio's fumble caused Andy's 3 turnovers because "omg cause and effect n stuff". That's stupid.
I agree.
djs Wrote:You could easily excuse almost every QB in the league if you want to play that spinning game. I'm not forcing a bunch of unnecessary blame on Andy as much as I was arguing with Brownshoe who was trying to alleviate ALL the blame from his dearly beloved. Andy has made some good decisions and good throws in the past that have resulted in turnovers, the 3 turnovers in the Chargers game don't fall into that category whatsoever. Anyone trying to say he played well in that game is just trolling or far too obsessed with 1 player to have an objective conversation.
Actually, Andy played well in the first half of the Chargers game. 2nd half, not so much. AND while he is responsible for those TOs, they weren't 100% his fault, either. Well, the 2nd INT was, IIRC, cause that was just a bad decision under no pressure.