12-07-2017, 11:32 PM
(12-07-2017, 02:15 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm trying to wrap my head around any of those QBs you mentioned having AJ Green to throw to.
I'm trying to wrap my head around Dalton being coached by Bill Belichick, Mike Holmgren, Tony Dungy or Mike McCarthy.
Brady and Manning had tons of weapons. Gronk, Moss, Welker, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edge, Joseph Addai, etc etc.
(12-07-2017, 08:38 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That's the play he can control, and shouldn't happen. It's the play that keeps him from being mentioned with the top tier guys.
What was he supposed to do there? The short options had defenders draped on them. You can see him scanning left and right and seeing no one open. It looked like he decided to tuck and run for it, but by then Dupree had him. The Steelers literally rushed 2 there and dropped 9 into coverage...and that was STILL enough. Say Andy blindly chucked it up just to "give us a chance". That ball had a 90% chance of being batted down or picked off. Then we're still right where we are...somehow finding a way to pin this on the offensive MVP of this game.
The smart move there would be to not pull the trigger and risk an INT in a tie ball game. Unfortunately, our defense was in full meltdown mode, allowing 20 points in one half of football. Dalton did make the play...not his fault AJ Green dropped it. Why are we ripping Andy when he held up his end? If AJ gets criticized, people have a conniption on here, but he holds the most blame for that 3 and out.
Here's the play, btw: https://youtu.be/z1FfOwjlqxU?t=4m20s
(12-07-2017, 09:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Clutch means, when you get the ball at the end of the game, you drive your team to points and, more than not, wins.
He's had 1 real 4th quarter GWD in the last season +. The Jets in the opener last year.
I wonder how many times he's had the ball, late in the 4th quarter with a chance to put points on the board and not done it... Pretty sure everyone knows the 2nd half scoring woes of the team.
Check out his 4th quarter passer rating. 74.4, good for 15th...in the AFC. #20 in the nfl is Alex Smith. He has an 89.1
He had done a good job up to the end of 2015. It will be good to see him with a different coach and a decent line. But i'm not about to keep throwing out excuse after excuse after excuse as to why he's playing the way he is. The really good quarterbacks find a way to get the job done, regardless of their surroundings. It's exactly why and how they are deemed 'elite' or 'very good/top 10'.
Fair criticism, but I think it's irrelevant to this particular game. Here's the last 3 drives we had, including the only two 4th quarter drives:
Drive 1:
AJ Green drop (the one that the Steelers thought was a fumble)
Gio 13 yard run
Gio 4 yard run
Brandon LaFell drop
Andy chased from pocket, had to throw away
Punt
Drive 2:
Dalton quick sack (instant pressure)
Penalty on Gio for false start
Brandon LaFell drop
Dalton 16 yard pass to Gio on 3rd and 23 (Steelers dropped everyone into coverage)
Punt
Drive 3:
AJ Green drop
Gio Bernard 8 yard run
Dalton sacked
Punt
So we have 3 drops, a penalty, 2 sacks and at least 1 pressure. Seems Dalton wasn't the one killing these drives. I get your frustration, but I think it's misplaced.
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