Let's play "New Head Coach"

[Benton]

(12-08-2017, 06:53 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: I believe that guy is Duke Tobin 

(12-08-2017, 07:07 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: A few years ago, we all thought that Tobin was the greatest.  He was putting together all of these "great drafts", it seemed as it the Bengals had an endless supply of talent coming in.  What happened?  Why is Tobin now appearing to be such a goat?

I have an idea, and it has nothing to do with the man picking the players in the draft.  What's happened is the good coaches and coordinators that were in charge of developing that talent, have all been plucked away to higher positions with other teams.

It's not Tobin's fault that the current coaching can't develop the talent.  Example, we lost Sanu and Jones to FA.  Team says "We need WRs", Tobin goes and selects 5 of them in the past two drafts.  They were all fantastic athletes in college, did they somehow forget how to run routes and catch footballs, once they became pros?  I don't think so.

The problem is that the coaching staff isn't getting these players developed to play.  I just used the WR situation as one example.  I think the same can be said for other positions as well.

Alll the praise back then and all the criticism now shouldn’t be lumped on Tobin. From what I’ve read, he’s only part of the equation as far as drafting goes. Some of the fault is probably his, but a lot of it is, as sunset is saying, on the coordinators.

I was being sarcastic, but overall I think there’s a problem to our recent draft approach where we’re trying to outsmart other teams and picking guys who are likely going to be delayed years because of injury. Ross is a good example. His preseason and season injury pretty much nullified his rookie progression. So knock that year off. If next season he’s healthy and produces like a rookie would, then he might fill a hole or two on some downs. At best, it’ll be the season after before he’s able to really produce like a starter.