12-10-2017, 04:32 PM
(12-10-2017, 04:13 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Scientific proof, instead of bullshit agendas, is a wonderful thing. Even if one were to believe the fearmongers....one only need look at actual policy to determine veracity.
There was good science behind the CFC effects. And they actually DID something about CFC's. THAT is how you know you're not being bullshitted. Congress - for as incompetent as they may be - actually DOES come together and do do something when science says they need to do something.
Global warming is just another wedge issue like guns and abortion.
First, scientific evidence, not proof. Science doesn't really prove much, just provides evidence to support hypotheses based on observational information. The information obtained regarding climate change and humankind's impact has provided substantial evidence to support these hypotheses.
The idea that we need only look at policy to see that if this were real something would be done is fallacious logic. Congress has become less effective since then. A more polarized political body combined with a continued shift favoring less regulation, even among the Democrats, would be prohibitive to something like the Montreal Protocol passing muster these days. In addition to that, the lobbying force behind the industries that would be most affected by efforts to curb human impacts on climate change is much greater than those that were most impacted by the CFC restrictions and have gained greater power since the decision in Citizens United.
There is plenty of good science behind the assertion that global climate change is occurring and that humans are having an impact on this. It has been something that has been politicized too much. People have staked their positions on this issue based on their political ideologies as a result of this politicization of the topic and that has caused an unfortunate delay on the progress of technologies that could be used to help mitigate the damage we have done.