John Ross “healthy scratch” right? He posted this.

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(12-20-2017, 09:50 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Those are interesting stats, but they don't really compare apples to apples unless they had the same amount of playing time in those years.  I would think Dennard would equal Hall's one year with his four, but he really hadn't had much of any opportunity until this year.

CB stats are also misleading in this sense:  Unless you can break down targets, you might miss the guy that is so solid in coverage that he is rarely targeted by the opposing QB.  I was surprised to see you say Hall had 5 INTs that first year, but I know they targeted the shit out of him.  

I disagree that Dennard has zero instincts or hands as well.  I haven't seen too many opportunities where he dropped easy INTs, and as I mentioned earlier if you are the opposing QB and you have Dennard or Adam Jones and Dre Kirkpatrick, you aren't looking at Dennard as much as the other two.  Dennard also played a lot more at slot corner, which is a bit of a different animal as far as INT opportunities as well.  

Agreed they don't compare equally, but Dennard has played well over a years worth of snaps, so the Dennard 4 vs Hall 1 actually favors Dennard in playing time in that one. Dennard has played something like 135% of a single season's snaps in his career. Plus while playing helps you learn, having 2-3 years to learn also should theoretically help you. Sitting and learning worked for Palmer, it worked for Rodgers, etc.

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I'll admit I don't have targets and such, but I did add a stat that pointed out that he wasn't so solid in coverage that he is rarely targeted. He is leading the team in solo tackles this year. You can't tackle people unless they have the ball near you.

Even in '16, when he played a little over 30% of the defensive snaps, he had 32 solo tackles. That's roughly 100 solo tackles if he played 100%. CBs should simply never be needed to tackle that often, and that works out over his career, too. I said he's played roughly 135% of a full season's worth of defensive snaps earlier in my post. Well he has 160 tackles (114 solo) in that 135%. People are targeting him plenty.

For the previous 4 years of 16 games started each year ('13-'16) Richard Sherman is averaging 38.5 solo tackles. The year after Revis became an island with his 31 Pdef/6 INT in '09, and people stopped throwing at him? 26 solo tackles (in 13 games).

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Combine all those tackles (thus opportunity) he's had with the fact that he's playing the whole year this year and he has 5 Pdef, and he has no instincts for the ball.