The Con of Hiring a Coach Fired By Another Team

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(12-21-2017, 10:32 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I do think Jay Gruden would be about the best realistic coach we could get, BUT he's been 4-12, 9-7, 8-7-1, and 6-8 in Washington.

Hue Jackson has been 8-8, 1-15, and 0-14 as HC. His best year, the Raiders started 7-4 and finished 1-4.

You could explain away their poor performances on not having a QB, flawed rosters, etc.

But...they work for teams now that have a lot of scouts and use free agency.

Here...our roster isn't that great and THEY are going to have to be the ones that scout.

What I'm saying in a round about way is that they will have the SAME ISSUES here...maybe even worse. We need to find a coach who can take an average roster and improve it and take it to the next level. Not coaches who fail with an average roster...because our front office is not better than most teams in the league at acquiring talent.

IF we were say the Steelers or Patriots, a guy like Jay Gruden or Jackson could probably win there...but probably not here...at least consistently.

The Browns and Redskins have a lot of scouts and use free agency, but they aren't well ran teams by any stretch.  The Browns have been garbage for over a decade.  You can't even try to argue that the Browns are better at acquiring talent than the Bengals, despite their adherence to tenants held by many armchair GM's like "spend big in FA" and "trade down for more picks."

You can't dismiss a coach simply because he's a retread.  Look at how many retread coaches have won Super Bowls in recent years.  Bill Bellicheck failed with the Browns, and is now arguably the greatest HC in NFL history.  Jon Gruden won a SB with Tampa after coming coming up short in Oakland.  He replaced Tony Dungy, who won a ring with the Colts.  Tom Coughlin went from the Jags to the Giants and won two titles.  Gary Kubiak was a middling HC for the Texans, but broke through with the Broncos.