Carson Palmer retires

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(01-03-2018, 07:25 AM)Sabretooth Wrote: I would like to know EXACTLY, without speculation, hunches, or imagination.

I get that, but you judge a man by his actions and not his words.  What we know is that 2010 was a huge letdown and Marvin Lewis went public saying he wasn't going to come back unless changes were made.  He specifically cited wanting an indoor practice facility and increased personnel and so on.  Marvin didn't get these things but signed an extension anyways and soon after that Carson Palmer demanded to be traded and following that Bob Bratkowski was fired.

All I can do is speculate, but an educated guess is that Carson and Marvin agreed to approach Mike Brown together to demand changes and Marvin like this time (or not, depending on how fake you think his latest "I'm leaving to pursue other opportunities" announcement was), went public about wanting to leave while Carson did not.  Marvin and Carson approach Mike Brown, Mike Brown says "Nope" and Marvin caves in and sticks around and Carson wants out.

At that point Carson didn't want to play for an owner who didn't care about winning and a HC who chickened out on him.  Again, that's my take and I'm not one of the 3 men on earth who actually know what went on, so take it for what it's worth.  Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis are thick and thieves and complicit in this pit of misery so I wouldn't care to even hear their take on it and Carson Palmer doesn't seem like the type of guy to dwell on this sort of thing needlessly.

Short version:  Marvin Lewis gave up on changing this stale culture and chose to become part of the problem for his own gain because it was easier than taking a stand and getting a job somewhere else.  Carson Palmer had the option to make a lateral move in the NFL and Marvin Lewis didn't.

As the immortal bards, Hall & Oates, once sang:  The strong give up and move on, while the weak, the weak give up and stay-ay-ay-ay!