01-16-2018, 11:27 AM
(01-16-2018, 10:20 AM)Jpoore Wrote: I don't really give a **** on how u feel about me. Dont comment then. Doesn't change the fact that Shelton was a 2 down player coming out of college.vea is a 3 down player that will put u on ur ass rushing the passer and stopping the run than u can build ur franchise around. One thing u do know how to do is watch tape. And the tape says he is going to be a franchise changing Dt for the next 10 years.
I don't really see Vea stand out at all when comparing his tape to Billings and Shelton. Both of those guys too were considered world-beaters with All-Pro potential.
In fact, the words "All-Pro" were mentioned in both Billings' and Shelton's scouting reports on NFL.com in the Bottom-Line section:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/andrew-billings?id=2555267
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/danny-shelton?id=2552325
You may end up being right on Vea, but that's too risky for me to take a NT at 12 when IMO we have one of near-equivalent talent in Billings.
EDIT - Also, I can't find a site that lists collegiate snap counts, but from looking at the final years of Shelton and Vea, I'd say you're also wrong about Shelton only being a 2-down player in college compared to Vea being a 3-down player.
Shelton 2014 (14 games) - 94 total tackles, 17.0 TFL, 9.0 sacks, 3 FR (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/danny-shelton-1.html)
Vea 2017 (12 games) - 43 total tackles, 5.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 4 PD (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vita-vea-1.html)
If Shelton was able to have his 2014 stats as a 2-down player and Vea had his stats as a 3-down player, I'd prefer Shelton over Vea.
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Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
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Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
Sorry for Party Rocking!