01-16-2018, 05:22 PM
(01-16-2018, 11:27 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't really see Vea stand out at all when comparing his tape to Billings and Shelton. Both of those guys too were considered world-beaters with All-Pro potential.
In fact, the words "All-Pro" were mentioned in both Billings' and Shelton's scouting reports on NFL.com in the Bottom-Line section:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/andrew-billings?id=2555267
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/danny-shelton?id=2552325
You may end up being right on Vea, but that's too risky for me to take a NT at 12 when IMO we have one of near-equivalent talent in Billings.
EDIT - Also, I can't find a site that lists collegiate snap counts, but from looking at the final years of Shelton and Vea, I'd say you're also wrong about Shelton only being a 2-down player in college compared to Vea being a 3-down player.
Shelton 2014 (14 games) - 94 total tackles, 17.0 TFL, 9.0 sacks, 3 FR (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/danny-shelton-1.html)
Vea 2017 (12 games) - 43 total tackles, 5.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 4 PD (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vita-vea-1.html)
If Shelton was able to have his 2014 stats as a 2-down player and Vea had his stats as a 3-down player, I'd prefer Shelton over Vea.
U got to remember though Shelton had a lot of good players next to him. Vea was basically alone on that dline. Vea gets triple teamed u should be able to generate pressure. I would be interested to see the qb pressures stats bc I think there's 3 games that anyone watching tape on vea needs to see. Ucla against a balanced offense, Stanford against a power offense, and Oregon against a spread offense. He dominated all 3. He's not Danny Shelton. I promise u that. The problem is u can't compare him to anyone bc we haven't seen anyone like him before. Shelton had a decent first step but vea first step is electric quick. Vea has insane short area quickness. I don't think Billings or Glasgow are anywhere near the players vea is. He's a plug and play player and we're gonna regret passing on him. When I said Shelton is a 2 down player I meant now. I don't think Shelton is a 3 down player in nfl. Vea is. Shelton is nowhere near the Dt or the athlete vea is. Hope we don't make the mistake of passing on him.
