01-20-2018, 01:49 PM
(01-20-2018, 01:30 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Yes. You are right in regards to Pro Bowlers.
I am not talking BB down and Tomlin up, I am giving facts. My opinion is we will see what Tomlin does without Big Ben. The facts are Tomlin does not have a losing season in his career. BB has 5 losing seasons in his career. Fact is Brady does not have a losing year in his career. Fact is Brady has NEVER missed the playoffs. Fact is BB is 1 in 7 years in making the playoffs without Brady.
As for as the Browns on the rise when Modell moved them in 1996, they were 5-11 and the Bengals were 7-9. I guess the Bengals were rising faster
All this you mentioned was largely WITH Brady, as you are proving my point with your statement.
" He's had 12+ wins in 8 consecutive seasons and he's had 10+ wins in 15 seasons. Oh yeah, almost forgot this...5 SB rings in 7 tries. "
Brady's years with the Patriots are impossible to measure he is phenomenon.
If you can't see that the Browns were improving under Belichick, i can't make you.
If you can't see that Belichick is a much better coach (brady or not) than Tomlin, i can't make you.
If you can't see that Tomlin is more a rah-rah speech 'em up coach than he is a technician, i can't make you.
Take away both QBs from their coaches and there's no question Belichick has more success with what's next.
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