If He's There.....

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(03-06-2018, 07:21 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: True, we agree and disagree on things, it's just how the draft works.
I will agree that Mayfield is one of the two best though. I'd take him in a heartbeat


Very different on tape. Josh Allen is very night and day inside and outside the pocket. He excels much more outside of it, whereas Wentz was much better inside the pocket.

Okay, here's where your wrong about the "teammates" part. He was inaccurate even to open receivers. It's clear as day. Also his receivers didn't "drop balls". In 2017, his receivers dropped 12 passes. 12. Josh Rosen and Lamar Jackson's receivers dropped more passes. He gets his mechanics all messy and misses a ton of "gimme" throws. His accuracy comes and goes.
Josh Allen's receivers had a drop rate of 7.84%. Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph all had higher drop rate percentages.
Also, Allen makes a lot of terrible decisions. He was a turnover machine and put the ball in position for defenders to make a play on the ball against weaker competition. He attempts high risk throws quite a bit. Granted, he has an arm that can make some of those throws, there's no denying that. But his accuracy lacks in that position a lot and will be a big issue at the next level.
Oh, and his offensive line may have been an issue, but there's also MANY plays where he has protection and he just leaves the pocket or gets off schedule early through his progressions.
Allen lacks consistency with his arm talent. He arguably has the best arm in the draft, but that means little when you're so inaccurate and mechanics break down early and often. Allen leaves the pocket earlier than he should at times.

There's no denying Allen has talent. But his playing style is EXTREMELY similar to that of Jake Locker. Great arms. Athletic and can make throws out of the pocket. Evaded rushers. Keeps his head down the field to throw the ball.
But
Erratic passers that miss open receivers. Force throws. Leaves the pocket early. Progressions are very up and down. Heck, Jake Locker even got the "supporting cast" issue.


Look up, because stats disprove that narrative. As does tape.

Well said.  I must admit, what I have seen of him has been limited, cause....Wyoming.  He looked pretty good, I thought, in his bolw game.  Essentially, what I get from your analysis, he is Andy Dalton with a better arm.  That is, from a leaving the pocket and getting off schedule in his progressions standpoint.  Dalton was better at that before the line meltdown, maybe Allen could develop as well with proper coaching?  Work with House?  At any rate, as I stated in a later post, I was for taking a 2nd/3rd rd flyer on him.....but now with the combine performance he may go earlier.