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Andy Dalton street value
(03-20-2018, 11:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No, I've never wondered that and have explained it ad nausium. He is an average NFL QB, he has been rated average throughout his career, he's just been average (use your word consistent) for a long time. Let's just say you and other fanboys should be happy we are just focusing on passing stats, because you do not want to add what a QB can do with his feet to the equation.

But I understand. This preseason I'll most likely rank Dalton mid-pack, as will most experts. There will be the usual suspects that chime in with "disrespect", "hater" ect... I know this because I saw the same movie last year. But who knows, 8th year could be the charm. 

Sorry that that makes "no sense" to you. 

1. No need to get testy and start throwing the fanboy word around. I didn't call you a hater, now did I?

2. Consistent does not = average. I explained myself pretty well.

3. Add all the rushing stats you want. That will only push Dalton further up. Unless you don't think rush TDs are important for some reason.

4. I'll continue to rank Dalton somewhere between 10th and 14th and overall for his career, I'll continue to be accurate. Each year, some scrub like Josh McCown, Case Keenum, Josh Freeman or Colin Kaepernick will have a fluke year where his passer rating is higher than Dalton's. That doesn't mean these guys are better than Dalton.

Lets look at a different QB. Matt Stafford. He has an average year to year ranking of 15.5 (according to ESPN stats). Do you think it's fair to say that's where he deserves to be ranked? I don't. I think he's closer to 10th than 15th or 16th. Dalton has an average ranking of 15.4. 

Again, so many flashes in the pan every year rank higher than these guys. Last year it was Keenum and Josh McCown. In 2014, Fitzpatrick, Flacco, Cutler, Sanchez and Orton finished ahead of both Stafford and Dalton. Would you take any of those guys over Stafford or Dalton? What about 2013, when Foles, McCown and Kaepernick bumped Dalton and Stafford down to 15th and 19th respectively?

This is why rankings in career rating is a more accurate way to judge a QB among his peers than year to year rankings. Unless you'd prefer a guy like Fitzpatrick, Keenum, McCown, Orton or Sanchez just because they ranked higher for a particular season.
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