Andy Dalton street value

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(03-21-2018, 03:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It absolutely means they were better that year. Now if we want to handout a lifetime achievement award, feel free; but as I say they hand out the Lombardi on an annual basis. Funny how you say you'll continue to be accurate by ranking him 10-14 when he has only been in that range once in his 7 year career.  

Let's just wait until we rank them this preseason and see who is proven right again. 

That year, yes. But when you are making QB rankings, you should take multiple years into account. Otherwise, Foles and McCown would've been ranked in the top 3 QB's going into 2014.

(03-21-2018, 03:24 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I'd like to think I'm pretty rational on things, so here it goes:

1.  I think Dalton is a guy who falls in the 10-18 range.  He's right on the cusp of being a top 10 guy IF he has a good line and a good surrounding cast.  Without it, he's basically a good to average QB.

2.  I think the value of Dalton goes down each year as he gets older.  I a lot of these "rankings" tend to favor upside.  Dalton has very little upside, if any, from where he is at as a QB.  You pretty much know what you are getting with him.

3.  Knowing what you are getting also helps his value a little bit.  You won't get a bust if you trade for him, but you also aren't getting a top 5 talent.

That being said, you wouldn't get much for him now, simply because the QB market it set.  Most, if not all, of the teams in the league have either a set starter or have positioned themselves in the draft to add one.  If a team is looking at him in the offseason you would probably get a first rounder for him.  If a team is desperate because of injury, you could get more.

This is a very fair post. I've said in the past that Dalton would command a 1st rounder, and maybe he still would in the right scenario...but as you said, the value drops with age. Brett Favre was once traded for a 3rd rounder IIRC (I'm not saying Dalton = Favre), and obviously that had a lot to do with age. Palmer got a 1st, but it was a desperate situation.

The only thing I'll pick at with your post is saying Dalton can be on the cusp of being a top 10 guy "if he has a good line and supporting cast". If you look at guys in the top 10 passer rating year to year, they usually had a decent line and/or supporting cast. A few have got it done without, but most QB's need to not be on their back constantly in order to reach their potential. 

I almost entirely agree with your post though.