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Andy Dalton street value
(03-23-2018, 12:54 AM)fredtoast Wrote: This thread has been beaten to death.  Although I defend Dalton I never claim he is among the elite.  And here are the stats that I feel define him.

Since 2011 only 5 QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Ryan, P Manning) had more games with a 125+ passer rating  than Dalton.

But no QB had more games with a rating of 65 or lower.  Dalton had 25.  Eli Manning and Cam Newton were tied for second with 23.

Dalton has a high ceiling.  When he is good he can be among the best.  But when he is bad he is horrible.  

His biggest weakness is his inconsistency.

Here's the problem I have with any "since 2011" (or insert year) stats: It eliminates way too many players. 

1. There are so many starters who came into the league after 2011.

2. Some QBs have come and gone during that time. Many have missed entire seasons or lots of games.

How many QBs have made as many starts as Dalton from 2011-present? We might be talking about 10 QBs, probably less. And this is also why I don't use any "since 2011" stats to defend Dalton. 
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
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Andy Dalton street value - J24 - 01-17-2018, 11:53 PM
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