04-24-2018, 08:24 AM
(04-24-2018, 02:41 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: What kind of play was he injured on? Was he running? Did any previous hits contribute to the injury?
Dalton isn't really a running QB and doesn't take the punishment Jackson will at the NFL level.
The funny thing is, I remember having similar discussions about RGIII on the old boards and people were vigorously defending him and his ability to stay healthy once he got to the NFL.
This seems pretty simple. Running QBs take more hits and often don't brace for the hits as well as RBs. Vick didn't know how to slide. RGIII took some brutal hits. Defender's love getting a free shot at the QB when they don't have the same rule protections they have behind the LOS.
This isn't personal. Look at the list of running QBs and you see more injury riddled careers.
A non contact play. You are trying hard to make your example work, but it won't. As all articles around the time said it was a freak accident that could have happened to anyone, keyword there anyone. Sam Bradford's injury was non contact too, but I don't see anyone trying to attribute that to anything other than a freak accident.
The Dalton point was about Jackson being small or not thick enough. We have ran Andy a decent amount in his career and he actually ran a pretty good amount in college as well. You have this weird vision in your mind that Lamar Jackson seeks contact like Cam Newton he doesn't. If you remember RG3 was criticized for not sliding and taking unneeded hits, in fact his last injury came when he decided to not go down. Cam Newton also seeks out contact, at least earlier in his career, combine that with them running him up the middle and that was an issue.
I'm not even necessarily disagreeing that by running they could face more injuries, but I think your examples thus far have been bad. I'll point to Russell Wilson as a counter point. He has shown that if you use the run in a way that doesn't expose you to extra hits you can revolutionize the position. Even Desaun Watson last year was good at avoiding unneeded hits when he ran down field. You don't have to design special run plays for them and expose them to hits, you simply let them use it as an option if they get in trouble, that is where the value is it's in strategically using the ability not abusing it (Cam Newton).
I am simply saying Sean Payton is on record saying he likes the guy and Bill Bellicheck is also intrigued by the guy, two of the best offensive (and QB) minded coaches in the NFL. This idea that because he can run is a bad thing is really what bothers me. You don't want guys who bring less to the table, you want guys who bring more. Side note, I don't want the Bengals to take him unless it's in the 2nd as I just don't think it's a high enough priority yet.
