AD better deep ball than u think

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(04-26-2018, 12:01 AM)wolverine515151 Wrote: It does't matter if it scores or not, the only thing that should matter is the quality of the throw. 

So, the QB's job is NOT to score points but rather just make quality throws?   This should be the point where I stop talking to you, but I'm bored so ...

(04-26-2018, 12:01 AM)wolverine515151 Wrote: Of course it means it is dependent on where it was thrown. Two exact same throws, one at the 51 and the other at the 50 result in two vastly different ratings. 

No, it's NOT. The only reason for the difference in the rating is because of the TD! A 50 yard pass thrown at the 1 gets the exact same QB rating as a 50 yard pass thrown at the 5, the 10, the 20, the 30, the 40 etc.

(04-26-2018, 12:01 AM)wolverine515151 Wrote: The fact is both throws went for the EXACT SAME DISTANCE and therefor should considered to be equally effective. Whether one scores or not is totally dependent on where it was thrown. 

Except they weren't equally effective! How are you not getting this? A 50 yard pass that doesn't end in a TD is not the same as a 50 yard TD pass. It doesn't matter if the 50 yard pass leads to a 1 yard TD. There have been many times a defense has prevented an offense from scoring from the 1 yard line. Ergo, if the pass ends in a TD, it's worth more and SHOULD be worth more.

(04-26-2018, 12:01 AM)wolverine515151 Wrote: Furthermore, the chances of scoring 1st and 10 on the 1 yard line is almost 99% so why even debate a extremely unlikely event happening like fumbling it on the 1. 

It doesn't matter the likelihood. The fact is it gives the defense a chance to stop it. Not to mention that if the RB runs it in for a TD, why should the QB get credit for that?

(04-26-2018, 12:01 AM)wolverine515151 Wrote: The only time a difference should be made is a throw less than 20  yards inside or outside of the red zone. The td when thrown inside the 20  that scores a td is much more effective than a throw outside the 20  because inside the red zone the defense compresses and outside the red zone it doesn't compress.  In the case of two balls launched deep from near midfield there is no difference in the defense . 

Yes, because launching 50 yard passes are sooooooooooooooo easy. All you see game in and game out are 50 yard passes.

wolverine515151 Wrote:The fact is Green is the best deep threat in the league and has a huge impact on Daltons qb rating and ability to complete a pass deep. Since he throws 70% of his deep throws to Green he has a huge impact on his ability to complete the throw.

Quote:Watching the rest of the league is  not important at all,  we're not talking about the other wide receivers, we're talking about strictly Greens impact on Daltons ability to complete a deep pass. What the rest of the leagues wide receivers impact has on other qb's doesn't matter at all in determining Daltons ability to complete a deep pass.

I get the feeling this was supposed to be a response to someone else so I'm going to give you a break and not respond to it.

wolverine515151 Wrote:It would have to be determined how to rate the offensive line and the wide receivers. You could start by using footballoutsiders offensive line rankings. As far as ranking the wide receivers you would have to study every deep threat and determine how many times he got open, how many times he made a huge adjustment to a bad throw, and how many times he scored a td by having to run a certain amount of yards after the catch.

I said "objective". These are all subjective.