Still just sick over this...

[BengalChris]

(09-06-2015, 10:15 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This is just beyond dumb.

Fisher was ranked far ahead of Lockett so in this case the Bengals FO grabbed the best player available and no disputing it.

Let's look at the 2015 draft. Fisher was a top ranked OT and projected 1st round pick or early second round pick. Lockett was a projected 2nd or 3rd round pick.

We had issues at both OL and WR for the future due to contracts in 2016. We had more immediate concerns at WR due to injuries of M. Jones and AJ Green in 2014.

So when faced to take most needed position, we took a 4th OT over a WR as we had already addressed the OT 2016 situation.

All of this is what makes your attempted trashing of Tobin, Katie, MB and ML make you look like you have no football IQ.

(09-06-2015, 10:37 AM)PDub80 Wrote: - In 2010 they signed Owens on the eve of training camp..... well AFTER the draft in 2010.
- Dez Bryant had so many red flags coming out of school I don't blame the Bengals for looking elsewhere at the time.
- The way the Bengals were being ran changed dramatically and almost immediately after the 2010 season thanks to Carson Palmer's stand and public shaming of the organization.

FACT: The Bengals have been one of, if not THE best drafting team in the NFL as a whole over the last 5 drafts and have built what I would consider one of the top 5 rosters in football for 2015 and a top 10 roster in the years leading up to now. So, I guess I am fine with their draft strategy and accept it without prejudice. In NFL terms 5 seasons is a generation ago and to have to go back that far to find a legit gripe using hindsight - and a paper thin one at that - speaks volumes to how impactful the changes made back then have been.

Again, the Bengals are a first class organization when it comes to drafting, players being happy, contract management (The Cap), player retention, in the community, etc. I surmise that the investments made in changing culminate into an exciting year for the Bengals on the field in 2015.

I'm not saying the Bengals draft philosophy is wrong. Just pointing out that we do not go straight BPA, not matter what people say or think. Positions of need have a bigger affect on the selections than most realize and it is part of the team's player ranking system.

You combine that with the team's reluctance to trade picks (either up or down) and you get our draft philosophy. Fisher could have been drafted later, but not likely when the Bengals picked in the 3rd round, so the team took him at their spot in the 2nd.

We have a large number of FAs end of this year and the team wanted two future starting OT from this draft. Not saying it's wrong. Just saying that the team wasn't going to pick a WR on day one or two. If I remember correctly, the Bengals let it be known that WR was not a priority in the draft this year.

But going back to 2010, if the old boards were open, many wanted Bryant over Gresham and they turned out to be correct. But there are other times where one thinks a player is better and they turn out like less than decent.


You can't look at media projections of rounds and expect that to translated to the draft. 32 teams passed on Fisher in the first, and that's after we took Og and the LSU kid became undraftable. So, Fisher couldn't have been as highly regarded as that by teams.